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Coin Finder · December 14, 2011 9:50AM

1865 S dimes are more common then the 1865, any rare or collectable die varieties for that date? Is this a good date to own in VF or better or are they common as dirt?

Thanks!

DIMEMAN · December 14, 2011 10:39AM

Both the 1865 and 1865-S are very scarce in any grade, but the 1865 is much more so.

Coin Finder · December 14, 2011 10:53AM

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seateddime · December 14, 2011 11:57AM

<< Both the 1865 and 1865-S are very scarce in any grade, but the 1865 is much more so. >>

What he said

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DIMEMAN · December 15, 2011 9:14AM

There are cases, probably many, where the price swings from lower to higher in the high unc grades. I don't dwell in that world. All I know is that the 1863-1867 P mint dimes are all much lower mintages than their S mint counter parts and cost more in the low and mid range grades.

LanLord · December 15, 2011 9:39AM

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<< Both the 1865 and 1865-S are very scarce in any grade, but the 1865 is much more so. >>

If the above is true then can you please explain why pcgs price guide has the 1865-s from ms and up many multiples higher than the 1865? Same goes for the following S's the prices are dramatically higher: 1863 & 1863-s, 1864 & 1864-s , 1866 & 1866-s and 1867 & 1867-s? I understand that the price guide coul dbe wrong, but what do they see that you and Seateddime don't

Remember I am just now learning the series,
thanks >>

Is the price guide based on real world sales information? If so, it may be that there are so few of the 63 - 67 philly coins changing hands that there is no reliable sales information to make changes to the guide. Those are buggars to even find much less purchase.

roadrunner · December 15, 2011 9:43AM

As the 65-S goes up the grading scale it becomes rarer than the 65-P. That probably happens somewhere in the low mint state range....maybe even in AU.
Because of the low mintages of the P mint dimes of that era, collectors salted some away in unc. That was not the case with S mints. To complicate matters the
1865-s usually comes with a pretty flat head. Even a choice unc may not look so nice. One is more apt to run across a choice unc 1867-P dime than they are a well
circulated specimen.

The fact that hundreds of proofs exist for each date from 1863-1867 sort of diminshes the "low mintage" aura of the business strikes. No such thing happened with
the S mints. A nice VF or better 65-s dime is a good coin to own as is any choice higher grade circ specimen. None of the S mint dimes of the 1860's are stoppers like
the S mint quarters. But the dimes are still scarce and desireable.

roadrunner

amwldcoin · December 15, 2011 10:33AM

<< As the 65-S goes up the grading scale it becomes rarer than the 65-P. That probably happens somewhere in the low mint state range....maybe even in AU.
Because of the low mintages of the P mint dimes of that era, collectors salted some away in unc. That was not the case with S mints. To complicate matters the
1865-s usually comes with a pretty flat head. Even a choice unc may not look so nice. One is more apt to run across a choice unc 1867-P dime than they are a well
circulated specimen.

The fact that hundreds of proofs exist for each date from 1863-1867 sort of diminshes the "low mintage" aura of the business strikes. No such thing happened with
the S mints. A nice VF or better 65-s dime is a good coin to own as is any choice higher grade circ specimen. None of the S mint dimes of the 1860's are stoppers like
the S mint quarters. But the dimes are still scarce and desireable.

roadrunner >>

Should be in a text book!

GoldenEyeNumismatics · December 15, 2011 10:45AM

There are always nice 1865 dimes available on the market. While there's a significant numbers of 65-S, they are harder to find in attractive condition, and can be very difficult to locate in XF and above.

Barberian · December 15, 2011 11:04AM

<< 

<< As the 65-S goes up the grading scale it becomes rarer than the 65-P. That probably happens somewhere in the low mint state range....maybe even in AU.
Because of the low mintages of the P mint dimes of that era, collectors salted some away in unc. That was not the case with S mints. To complicate matters the
1865-s usually comes with a pretty flat head. Even a choice unc may not look so nice. One is more apt to run across a choice unc 1867-P dime than they are a well
circulated specimen.

The fact that hundreds of proofs exist for each date from 1863-1867 sort of diminshes the "low mintage" aura of the business strikes. No such thing happened with
the S mints. A nice VF or better 65-s dime is a good coin to own as is any choice higher grade circ specimen. None of the S mint dimes of the 1860's are stoppers like
the S mint quarters. But the dimes are still scarce and desireable.

roadrunner >>

Should be in a text book! >>

I second the motion. All of his posts on seated coins are excellent, thoughtful, and informative posts.

seateddime · December 31, 2011 11:23PM

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<< Both the 1865 and 1865-S are very scarce in any grade, but the 1865 is much more so. >>

If the above is true then can you please explain why pcgs price guide has the 1865-s from ms and up many multiples higher than the 1865? Same goes for the following S's the prices are dramatically higher: 1863 & 1863-s, 1864 & 1864-s , 1866 & 1866-s and 1867 & 1867-s? I understand that the price guide coul dbe wrong, but what do they see that you and Seateddime don't

Remember I am just now learning the series,
thanks >>

The question was for a VF coin. In general 60's S mints are far rarer in gem condition than their Philly counterparts.

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