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ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I bought these pair of uniface Swiss Shooting Plaques on Ebay Germany given the fabulous design and size (120mm).

Seller described these in German (I used translator) as silver. They seem to be aluminum.

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Note the William Tell shooting at the apple on the boy's head. kinda neat assuming he doesnt miss.

I paid a fair amount, yet not crazy.

Would you:

1) Keep
2) Return
3) Sell

Habsburg Talers

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  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    Could they be white medal? -Dan
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very light weight (aluminum like). How could I tell if its WM?
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    Hmm. What is the weight in grams? What is the diameter? And what is the thickness? -Dan
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Diameter is 120mm. Relatively thin, reverse of medal has a velvet like base to it. Per seller's weight 62 grams each.
    Habsburg Talers

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  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭
    The brownish toning leads me to believe that they are not aluminum unless they have been "antiqued". I've seen low content silver (billon) with that look but never aluminum.

    Could they be hollow castings which make them light weight?

    Billon alloy: 2 to 40% silver content
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1960NYGiants it is hollow given the plaque high relief. Will read up on Billon.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    If they are aluminum they would have to be solid and at least 2mm thick. -Dan
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is that, Dan?
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    density=mass/volume. The density of aluminum is 2.70 g/cc. We know the weight and the diameter. We also know what the density of aluminum is. In order for it to be aluminum the medal should be at least 2.1 mm thick. -Dan
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's great info. How should I measure thickness given the hollow plaque?
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    Well if it is hollow then it cannot be aluminum. I have to agree with Gene that this does not look like aluminum. Aluminum keeps its silver color. Can you post a picture of the back?
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    Took different snapshots and stitched them
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    That looks like silver to me. The density of silver is 4 times that of aluminum. I can see that being almost 2 ounces including the weight of the felt. -Dan
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks much Dan. I think 62 grams is around 2 ounces. Feels light relative to massive size.

    What would you guys guess I paid for both...?
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do they sound?

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  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    $350 for the pair? -Dan
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