<< <i>Individuals working with other people's coins without a contract sooner or later results in unhappy situations like this. Too many coin people are unreasonable nuts. >>
I wonder if the customer would have paid in full even if the images were delivered per their specification.
<< <i>Individuals working with other people's coins without a contract sooner or later results in unhappy situations like this. Too many coin people are unreasonable nuts. >>
I wonder if the customer would have paid in full even if the images were delivered per their specification. >>
The way I felt was there was no pleasing him. I really, REALLY tried. He did say he liked many of my images, which is why I'm so perplexed now that he says he doesn't want any of them. My time is worth something, I'm sorry.
Yes, the person seems unreasonable and not very professional either. But aside from pointing a finger here or there, and personal feelings and time involved, I just want to say that it is not right or professional on your part to hold his coins for payment.
Say you are owed $100 and the coins are worth $10,000. I do not believe you have the right to hold "hostage" more than what you feel you are entitled too. Holding back a $100 coin is just petty in my opinion too.
Show you are a better person, return his coins and move on with your life. If it were me, and I was holding the valuable posessions of an unreasonable person, I would want to unload of it immediately, wash my hands of the situation, and move on with my life.
<< <i>Individuals working with other people's coins without a contract sooner or later results in unhappy situations like this. Too many coin people are unreasonable nuts. >>
I wonder if the customer would have paid in full even if the images were delivered per their specification. >>
The way I felt was there was no pleasing him. I really, REALLY tried. He did say he liked many of my images, which is why I'm so perplexed now that he says he doesn't want any of them. My time is worth something, I'm sorry.
-Paul >>
You are just not ever going to be able to please everybody. If your best is not good enough for him..... so be it. Move on. MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
He agreed to pay $5 for each of the 23 pix, which equals $115. No payment = no pictures. Simple.
Since they are his coins, you have the responsibility to return them to him. I would send them the slowest, cheapest way with signature confirmation and no insurance. Tell him this first, if he wants insurance, he has to pay for it.
As far as his shipping is concerned, it is unlikely he will bother to sue you for that $50. If he does, he doesn't think his time is worth very much, as most of us would pay $50 to avoid going into court, even when you're on offense, not defense. If he does sue you, you will have your day in court, his name will become public record and it can be reported on anywhere, including here. So, don't send him the $50 for his shipping.
In short, no pics, send back his coins, with no payment for his shipping. But that is just my opinion.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
<< <i>Here is my advice. Don't do anything, remain silent, he has to come to you to get his coins back, the more he pisses you off the longer he waits...........this should turn the tables rather quickly. I hope your idiot client pm's me, I would love to give him an earful. >>
Haha, good idea. I love how he's not responding with his side of the story. Oh wait, maybe because he knows he's wrong?
-Paul >>
This kind of taunting is less than professional IMHO.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< <i>Show you are a better person, return his coins and move on with your life. If it were me, and I was holding the valuable posessions of an unreasonable person, I would want to unload of it immediately, wash my hands of the situation, and move on with my life. Good luck! >>
When I was a coin dealer I made sure to tell my fellow dealer friends when I had a payment problem with an individual (or other dealer). They did the same for me. There is a lot of reference checking between dealers that goes on behind the scenes.
We don't want these boards turning into a forum for personal disputes. My advice is to contact all the other coin photographers you know and tell them your story.
Having said that, the strength of your case depends upon what you have in writing and can prove. If the entire understanding is as you describe it and it's in print then you have a very strong case. What you want to do with that depends on you.
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$115 is a small fee to eat on a "learning experience" Make you up a binding agreement for future clients.
I hate to think the world has come to a point so low/unethical but it's dog eat dog cover your "tail" as much as possible.
Jus my thoughts on the matter. I really like your pictures of coins! Peace, Tim
<< <i>Individuals working with other people's coins without a contract sooner or later results
in unhappy situations like this. Too many coin people are unreasonable nuts. >>
I wonder if the customer would have paid in full even if the images were delivered per their specification.
<< <i>I'm sure glad I can take my own pictures
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<< <i>Individuals working with other people's coins without a contract sooner or later results
in unhappy situations like this. Too many coin people are unreasonable nuts. >>
I wonder if the customer would have paid in full even if the images were delivered per their specification. >>
The way I felt was there was no pleasing him. I really, REALLY tried. He did say he liked many of my images, which is why I'm so perplexed now that he says he doesn't want any of them. My time is worth something, I'm sorry.
-Paul
Say you are owed $100 and the coins are worth $10,000. I do not believe you have the right to hold "hostage" more than what you feel you are entitled too. Holding back a $100 coin is just petty in my opinion too.
Show you are a better person, return his coins and move on with your life. If it were me, and I was holding the valuable posessions of an unreasonable person, I would want to unload of it immediately, wash my hands of the situation, and move on with my life.
Good luck!
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<< <i>Individuals working with other people's coins without a contract sooner or later results
in unhappy situations like this. Too many coin people are unreasonable nuts. >>
I wonder if the customer would have paid in full even if the images were delivered per their specification. >>
The way I felt was there was no pleasing him. I really, REALLY tried. He did say he liked many of my images, which is why I'm so perplexed now that he says he doesn't want any of them. My time is worth something, I'm sorry.
-Paul >>
You are just not ever going to be able to please everybody. If your best is not good enough for him..... so be it. Move on. MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
He agreed to pay $5 for each of the 23 pix, which equals $115. No payment = no pictures. Simple.
Since they are his coins, you have the responsibility to return them to him. I would send them the slowest, cheapest way with signature confirmation and no insurance. Tell him this first, if he wants insurance, he has to pay for it.
As far as his shipping is concerned, it is unlikely he will bother to sue you for that $50. If he does, he doesn't think his time is worth very much, as most of us would pay $50 to avoid going into court, even when you're on offense, not defense. If he does sue you, you will have your day in court, his name will become public record and it can be reported on anywhere, including here. So, don't send him the $50 for his shipping.
In short, no pics, send back his coins, with no payment for his shipping. But that is just my opinion.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
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<< <i>Here is my advice. Don't do anything, remain silent, he has to come to you to get his coins back, the more he pisses you off the longer he waits...........this should turn the tables rather quickly. I hope your idiot client pm's me, I would love to give him an earful. >>
Haha, good idea. I love how he's not responding with his side of the story. Oh wait, maybe because he knows he's wrong?
-Paul >>
This kind of taunting is less than professional IMHO.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
bob
<< <i>To keep it coin related a bit more: That 58d isn't worth the price of the pic. What a waste of money.
bob >>
<< <i>Show you are a better person, return his coins and move on with your life. If it were me, and I was holding the valuable posessions of an unreasonable person, I would want to unload of it immediately, wash my hands of the situation, and move on with my life. Good luck! >>
Couldn't have said it better...
We don't want these boards turning into a forum for personal disputes. My advice is to contact all the other coin photographers you know and tell them your story.
Having said that, the strength of your case depends upon what you have in writing and can prove. If the entire understanding is as you describe it and it's in print then you have a very strong case. What you want to do with that depends on you.
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