<< <i>I'm surprised USPS entertained this call for more than 3 seconds considering its currently 1 day late. >>
what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things. >>
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late.
<< <i>I'm surprised USPS entertained this call for more than 3 seconds considering its currently 1 day late. >>
what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things. >>
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late. >>
yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there.
Sounds like the op is premature in calling the package lost. There are lots of issues in this thread and I didn't even read it all. I'll skip all of them and go right to the end. The coin will show up soon. Not having the tracking number work is very common. --Jerry
<< <i>Cool it man. I never said that your price was absured. I said that a seller's asking price does not fix the fair value of a lost coin. And you are correct that I did not read all 170 posts in this thread but that is of no significance. Your purchase price was less than $2,000 and may be indicative that your loss is $1,500 and not $2,000. But go on believing the happy talk guys if that makes you happy.
CG >>
Cal so your saying if he did insure it to 2000. and it was lost in this manner. the original agreement on $2000 wouldnt still stand? Yes the dealer is out what he paid for the coin which could have been 1500. If prior sold in that grade for 1500 ( like the dealer bought) is the person returning only suppose to give back 1500 of the 2000 insured? or his 10% of 2000 down + the difference to get back to 1500 ( of the dealers original cost). Just making sure I understand you correctly. Cause I dont see why the buyer returning the coin should walk off with 500-700 of the dealers (would have been) profit due to USPS loosing the item and the buyers change of mind.
Im still thinking if you buy something for 2000 and have to return it. Its only right to insure it for the same amount whether you think it was worth it or not. (cause at some point you must have thought so otherwise why would you waste the dealers time and your own.
Not attacking or anything. Just trying to understand your point of view when you say dealer asking price doesnt fix fair market value and then what you do with the difference between fair market value and the dealers asking price.
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<< <i>I'm surprised USPS entertained this call for more than 3 seconds considering its currently 1 day late. >>
what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things. >>
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late. >>
yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there. >>
Here's one example of lost vs late that recently occurred to me:
PCGS recently notified me that they had shipped some coins to me. I looked up the tracking number and saw that the coins were delivered to my PO Box at 8:57am on a Thursday. A few hours later, when I went to the PO to get them, they were not there. I asked the postal clerk where they were & they said nothing ever came in for me. So at this point they are lost. I went home, got my email, looked up the tracking number, and low and behold they had been delivered to the wrong post office. I then called the 800 number & started an inquiry with them to get the coins back to my post office. Then I went to my post office & showed them the email with the tracking information so they could expedite getting the coins back to me. The next day they were waiting for me at the correct post office. Had I not initiated an inquiry immediately, maybe they would have eventually made it to me, or maybe they would have just sat around for awhile at the wrong post office. Or maybe the person whose box the notice was left in might have simply signed for them & walked out the door with them. Either way, the earlier you can start an inquiry, the better chance you have of a recovery.
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<< <i>Sounds like the op is premature in calling the package lost. There are lots of issues in this thread and I didn't even read it all. I'll skip all of them and go right to the end. The coin will show up soon. Not having the tracking number work is very common. --Jerry >>
Indeed, I've followed tracking numbers of items shipped to me from nearby counties and have rec'd the package while the status still showed "Electronic Information Received".
<< <i>I think you should out the buyer to make sure I dont ever send them a coin. >>
.........without getting paid first.
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Maybe he works for the postal service and arranged to have it stolen. No tracking number is very suspicious on a $2K coin. Is this an inexperienced buyer?
<< <i>I wouldn't be as sure it's missing , i thought i read earlier posts regarding it's not traceable/trackable ? I'd lay money you'll see it in the morning if i were a gambler. >>
How can you be so dense? He already said the package was tracked as having been received at his post office and after that it disappeared.
<< <i>I'm surprised USPS entertained this call for more than 3 seconds considering its currently 1 day late. >>
what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things. >>
I need to understand you, can you punch in the usps tracking number provided to you by our unfamous member and if so what doe sit say? >>
No. You or the sender have to go to the post office and they will track it. Scroll back a few pages to the printout I posted. The search will show when it was accepted and where it stopped along the way.
<< <i>I don't get this, why isn't the member doing al the leg work and trying to get you and him a good tracking number. Why isn't the member opening an investigation with the usps and showing them his paperwork and copying it for you to prove he sent it. What I am hearing is that this member picked his own ridiculously low $300 insured usps value compared to the agreed upon price of $2k and then t add insult to injury gives you a nonworking usps tracking number? Why do you say the package is missing, how would you know that with out a valid tracking number, at this point it is only late. You cannot say it is realistically missing unless you have a valid tracking number that shows that it is in limbo land. What am I missing here with all of this and why isn't the member coming on here to help sort this out for you. Why is this so freakin mysterious when it doesn't have to be. Did he fail to buy insurance, did he fail to ship it, did he fail to save proof of shipping it insured, is he failing to help you? >>
The sender should do the leg work, but anyone with a valid tracking number can go to any post office and ask them to do a search.
<< <i>Sounds like the op is premature in calling the package lost. There are lots of issues in this thread and I didn't even read it all. I'll skip all of them and go right to the end. The coin will show up soon. Not having the tracking number work is very common. --Jerry >>
The tracking number doesn't work because neither party has access to postal tracking system. It isn't DC or sig conf.
I am not going to read this whole thread but did the OP go to his post office and ask about it? I have packages sit at local post offices for weeks waiting to be claimed. I know if it was my 2k package I would. Also postal insurance will take months to get reimbursed so you do have some time to wait because it won't even be considered lost for I think 30-60 days??
<< <i>I am not going to read this whole thread but did the OP go to his post office and ask about it? I have packages sit at local post offices for weeks waiting to be claimed. I know if it was my 2k package I would. Also postal insurance will take months to get reimbursed so you do have some time to wait because it won't even be considered lost for I think 30-60 days?? >>
well thats 30-60 days the buyer is going to be waiting, because im not waiting 30-60 days to get reimbursed $300 for a coin im into well over that.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why????
<< <i>I'm surprised USPS entertained this call for more than 3 seconds considering its currently 1 day late. >>
what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things. >>
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late. >>
yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there. >>
I dont know if you are purposely playing with words but I am going to play stupid and assume you are not.
"yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there"
There is a difference between "It was suppose to be there...."....and it's not there yet and It was there..."and its no longer there"
Yet somehow you have taken a portion from both of these statements and combined them to make a continously confusing statement. When 98% of the members here are interpreting your story one way, and you insist that WE are the ones not understanding what you are saying, its time to wonder if the way you are wording things are the reason for that. Again maybe this is being done on purpose, in which case I think those 98% will also notice this, but in any case you are going to get the same request for clarification either way.
Now all that being said, if you are being told by someone that is A) Not yourself or Not someone at your local PO who saw the package, that the package was there, then that is not enough IMO to go on that in fact the package was there. For example, if the buyer is the one telling you he tracked it to your local PO, and there is a chance that he is either shady or possibly dumb, then maybe you shouldnt go by that just yet and get confirmation that it was ever there. If you cannot confirm that the package was ever in your local PO, then I dont think you should assume it is lost yet. Maybe it is, but the evidence is not there until you place the box in someones hand at your local PO, and that same person is now saying it is missing.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will. >>
The buyer returned the coin but underinsured it for reasons known only to him. When you buy postal insurance you also get a unique tracking number that can be tracked by the usps, but not by anyone else. The buyer went to his PO and had them track the package and they told him that it had been received back at the seller's PO. Seller contacts his PO and is told that a delivery attempt was made, but now the package can't be located. Does it make sense to you now?
Seller should call his PO and ask to speak to his delivery carrier.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will. >>
The buyer returned the coin but underinsured it for reasons known only to him. When you buy postal insurance you also get a unique tracking number that can be tracked by the usps, but not by anyone else. The buyer went to his PO and had them track the package and they told him that it had been received back at the seller's PO. Seller contacts his PO and is told that a delivery attempt was made, but now the package can't be located. Does it make sense to you now?
Seller should call his PO and ask to speak to his delivery carrier. >>
It does , thanks Bajjerfan , to me the post implied it was the would be buyers fault the post office has "lost" this item,underinsured or not it doesn't make it his fault if it's lost ..sure it's his problem if it is but it isnt his fault is how i'm seeing it.
<< <i>Why can't you obtain a valid tracking number from the buyer so you can track/trace it, is he not helping you in that area? >>
He gave me a number that doesnt work. >>
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps why isn't he helpng you to help his cause why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers.
I think the price for the coin is a bit excessive, but that's immaterial to who is at fault in this situation.
I also think that the package might just be late or the tracking number was incorrect or some related screwup at/by USPS. This happens all the time, and it's not fair to presume the package is lost just yet.
I think you are right to be miffed, for insuring the package for $300 was just plain wrong no matter how you slice it.
Lastly, I think you should show a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions -- at this point we really don't know what's happened to the package and it could show up tomorrow or a week from now.
If the package does not show up in a reasonable amount of time (say, 3 weeks), then I'd say the buyer owes you the lower of (a) $2000 or (b) some amount lower that you both agree to (and you have the right to not budge off your price).
Just my $0.02, and I hope the coin makes it way back to you safely....Mike
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
<< <i>I think the price for the coin is a bit excessive, but that's immaterial to who is at fault in this situation.
I also think that the package might just be late or the tracking number was incorrect or some related screwup at/by USPS. This happens all the time, and it's not fair to presume the package is lost just yet.
I think you are right to be miffed, for insuring the package for $300 was just plain wrong no matter how you slice it.
Lastly, I think you should show a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions -- at this point we really don't know what's happened to the package and it could show up tomorrow or a week from now.
If the package does not show up in a reasonable amount of time (say, 3 weeks), then I'd say the buyer owes you the lower of (a) $2000 or (b) some amount lower that you both agree to (and you have the right to not budge off your price).
Just my $0.02, and I hope the coin makes it way back to you safely....Mike >>
honestly i would just like to have it back so i can sell it to someone i trust.
<< <i>Well I sent out a coin to a buyer for an agreed value of $2000. Buyer was not happy with the coin and said it only looked like a coin worth a couple of hundred dollars. Needless to say I said return it. So he supposedly sends it back but with priority mail with NO tracking and only $300 insurance!!!! Well...USPS lost the package and I'm severely pissed off. Is it the buyers responsibility to pay for the lost item for what we agreed on or what I paid for it? I bought it a few years ago and got a great deal on it and think it would sell for more now. Opinions?? >>
I agree 100%. This is crystal clear. If the buyer disagrees on thevalue, fine. Return it, FULLY INSURED FOR $2k. Done. The buyer sounds like an idiot. Goo luck.
<< <i>Why can't you obtain a valid tracking number from the buyer so you can track/trace it, is he not helping you in that area? >>
He gave me a number that doesnt work. >>
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps why isn't he helpng you to help his cause why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Have you considered the post office might simply havce made a mistake in data entry somewhere?
It would certainly explain where we're at, if not the amount the buyer insured the package for.
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will. >>
The buyer returned the coin but underinsured it for reasons known only to him. When you buy postal insurance you also get a unique tracking number that can be tracked by the usps, but not by anyone else. The buyer went to his PO and had them track the package and they told him that it had been received back at the seller's PO. Seller contacts his PO and is told that a delivery attempt was made, but now the package can't be located. Does it make sense to you now?
Seller should call his PO and ask to speak to his delivery carrier. >>
It does , thanks Bajjerfan , to me the post implied it was the would be buyers fault the post office has "lost" this item,underinsured or not it doesn't make it his fault if it's lost ..sure it's his problem if it is but it isnt his fault is how i'm seeing it. >>
True, the buyer was not responsible for the loss, but he was derelict in his duty to make the seller whole in the event that the USPS failed to perform. Since he chose to gamble and underinsure the package and if the package does indeed end up undelivered then he is on the hook for the difference between the $2K agreed on sales price less any credit he can muster.
<< <i>Why can't you obtain a valid tracking number from the buyer so you can track/trace it, is he not helping you in that area? >>
He gave me a number that doesnt work. >>
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps why isn't he helpng you to help his cause why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Maybe TonedRarities should just give you the buyer's number and you can call him directly.
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<< <i>Why can't you obtain a valid tracking number from the buyer so you can track/trace it, is he not helping you in that area? >>
He gave me a number that doesnt work. >>
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps why isn't he helpng you to help his cause why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Even if he lost the receipt he shud be able to go to his PO and get it as they shud have a list of all of the tracking numbers issued that day.
<< <i>Why can't you obtain a valid tracking number from the buyer so you can track/trace it, is he not helping you in that area? >>
He gave me a number that doesnt work. >>
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps why isn't he helpng you to help his cause why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Maybe TonedRarities should just give you the buyer's number and you can call him directly.
Sean Reynolds >>
would love too. He would probably get more answers out of him than me
I think what's oddest is the would be buyer has had nothing to say thus far , i honestly doubt i could sit by and let a thread lambast me for days ..the 2 sides to every story thing..seems odd
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
In your opinion Is a package that is late not also "suppose to be there"? >>
Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678 PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
In your opinion Is a package that is late not also "suppose to be there"? >>
Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678 PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me. >>
no pink slip was left. which leads me to believe something fishy is going on.
When/if this coin arrives it will prove this entire thread was posted prematurely and could harm OP's future sales to those that read it. May prove to have been a bad business decision to do so. Hope not, OP seems to be a good guy.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
In your opinion Is a package that is late not also "suppose to be there"? >>
Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678 PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me. >>
I was of the impression that the buyer either had it tracked and passed on what info he was given or had provided the seller with the correct number. Now it appears that neither was the case.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
In your opinion Is a package that is late not also "suppose to be there"? >>
Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678 PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me. >>
no pink slip was left. which leads me to believe something fishy is going on. >>
Now I am really lost, you give them a tracking number, they say there is no record but that they tried to deliever and a pink slip was left. How would they know they tried to deliver that package if they don't have a tracking number to know it is that package, I am sure you get other packages? >>
I am only going by what the buyer told me. In a recent PM he stated it was at the PO and that they attempted delivery and a slip was left. No attempt was made, and no slip was left. My family is extremely good friends with our Mailman and he lives right up the street from me, he never forgets to leave a slip. The buyer is telling me the item is at the post office and they are going to return it to him if i dont pick it up. Went there and they dont have it!
I recently sent a package from Seattle to Memphis via First Class Mail. It arrived at the buyer's PO the day after I shipped it, and he got the notice to pick it up. It then took 6 days for the PO to find it, even though it was physically there from day 1. Things get misplaced, and with the USPS, one day is nothing.
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<< <i>I'm surprised USPS entertained this call for more than 3 seconds considering its currently 1 day late. >>
what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things.
I need to understand you, can you punch in the usps tracking number provided to you by our unfamous member and if so what doe sit say? >>
Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. >>
Thats what the USPS web site was telling me and my customers all last week due to me entering the numbers incorrectly.
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what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things.
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late.
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what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things.
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late. >>
yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there.
<< <i>Cool it man. I never said that your price was absured. I said that a seller's asking price does not fix the fair value of a lost coin. And you are correct that I did not read all 170 posts in this thread but that is of no significance. Your purchase price was less than $2,000 and may be indicative that your loss is $1,500 and not $2,000. But go on believing the happy talk guys if that makes you happy.
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Cal so your saying if he did insure it to 2000. and it was lost in this manner. the original agreement on $2000 wouldnt still stand? Yes the dealer is out what he paid for the coin which could have been 1500. If prior sold in that grade for 1500 ( like the dealer bought) is the person returning only suppose to give back 1500 of the 2000 insured? or his 10% of 2000 down + the difference to get back to 1500 ( of the dealers original cost). Just making sure I understand you correctly. Cause I dont see why the buyer returning the coin should walk off with 500-700 of the dealers (would have been) profit due to USPS loosing the item and the buyers change of mind.
Im still thinking if you buy something for 2000 and have to return it. Its only right to insure it for the same amount whether you think it was worth it or not. (cause at some point you must have thought so otherwise why would you waste the dealers time and your own.
Not attacking or anything. Just trying to understand your point of view when you say dealer asking price doesnt fix fair market value and then what you do with the difference between fair market value and the dealers asking price.
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what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things.
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late. >>
yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there. >>
Or it's late.
I think it's well past your bedtime anyway?
No longer there...never there...? Was, or was to be?
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Here's one example of lost vs late that recently occurred to me:
PCGS recently notified me that they had shipped some coins to me. I looked up the tracking number and saw that the coins were delivered to my PO Box at 8:57am on a Thursday. A few hours later, when I went to the PO to get them, they were not there. I asked the postal clerk where they were & they said nothing ever came in for me. So at this point they are lost. I went home, got my email, looked up the tracking number, and low and behold they had been delivered to the wrong post office. I then called the 800 number & started an inquiry with them to get the coins back to my post office. Then I went to my post office & showed them the email with the tracking information so they could expedite getting the coins back to me. The next day they were waiting for me at the correct post office. Had I not initiated an inquiry immediately, maybe they would have eventually made it to me, or maybe they would have just sat around for awhile at the wrong post office. Or maybe the person whose box the notice was left in might have simply signed for them & walked out the door with them. Either way, the earlier you can start an inquiry, the better chance you have of a recovery.
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<< <i>Sounds like the op is premature in calling the package lost. There are lots of issues in this thread and I didn't even read it all. I'll skip all of them and go right to the end. The coin will show up soon. Not having the tracking number work is very common. --Jerry >>
Indeed, I've followed tracking numbers of items shipped to me from nearby counties and have rec'd the package while the status still showed "Electronic Information Received".
<< <i>I think you should out the buyer to make sure I dont ever send them a coin. >>
.........without getting paid first.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>I wouldn't be as sure it's missing , i thought i read earlier posts regarding it's not traceable/trackable ? I'd lay money you'll see it in the morning if i were a gambler. >>
How can you be so dense? He already said the package was tracked as having been received at his post office and after that it disappeared.
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what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things.
I need to understand you, can you punch in the usps tracking number provided to you by our unfamous member and if so what doe sit say? >>
No. You or the sender have to go to the post office and they will track it. Scroll back a few pages to the printout I posted. The search will show when it was accepted and where it stopped along the way.
<< <i>I don't get this, why isn't the member doing al the leg work and trying to get you and him a good tracking number. Why isn't the member opening an investigation with the usps and showing them his paperwork and copying it for you to prove he sent it. What I am hearing is that this member picked his own ridiculously low $300 insured usps value compared to the agreed upon price of $2k and then t add insult to injury gives you a nonworking usps tracking number? Why do you say the package is missing, how would you know that with out a valid tracking number, at this point it is only late. You cannot say it is realistically missing unless you have a valid tracking number that shows that it is in limbo land. What am I missing here with all of this and why isn't the member coming on here to help sort this out for you. Why is this so freakin mysterious when it doesn't have to be. Did he fail to buy insurance, did he fail to ship it, did he fail to save proof of shipping it insured, is he failing to help you? >>
The sender should do the leg work, but anyone with a valid tracking number can go to any post office and ask them to do a search.
<< <i>Sounds like the op is premature in calling the package lost. There are lots of issues in this thread and I didn't even read it all. I'll skip all of them and go right to the end. The coin will show up soon. Not having the tracking number work is very common. --Jerry >>
The tracking number doesn't work because neither party has access to postal tracking system. It isn't DC or sig conf.
<< <i>I am not going to read this whole thread but did the OP go to his post office and ask about it? I have packages sit at local post offices for weeks waiting to be claimed. I know if it was my 2k package I would. Also postal insurance will take months to get reimbursed so you do have some time to wait because it won't even be considered lost for I think 30-60 days?? >>
well thats 30-60 days the buyer is going to be waiting, because im not waiting 30-60 days to get reimbursed $300 for a coin im into well over that.
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why????
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what is so hard for some people to understand. ITS NOT LATE! It is MISSING! they are to totally different things.
Can you define for me the difference between missing and late by 1 day? Like what are the exact steps in the process where the 2 status fork from similarity. Did someone at your local post office call and say "Here it is in my hand come get it" and then when you showed up it was no longer there? That is the only scenario I can think of where the 2 status situations would fork. A late item would appear, from all outside eyes, the same way that a missing item would. "It was suppose to be here on day X and its not", at that point missing and late are identical situations. It is why people wait up to 30 days to declare something missing instead of late. >>
yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there. >>
I dont know if you are purposely playing with words but I am going to play stupid and assume you are not.
"yes it was suppose to be there and its no longer there"
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Yet somehow you have taken a portion from both of these statements and combined them to make a continously confusing statement. When 98% of the members here are interpreting your story one way, and you insist that WE are the ones not understanding what you are saying, its time to wonder if the way you are wording things are the reason for that. Again maybe this is being done on purpose, in which case I think those 98% will also notice this, but in any case you are going to get the same request for clarification either way.
Now all that being said, if you are being told by someone that is A) Not yourself or
<< <i>I believe he did and they told him they couldn't find it even tho it is supposed to be there. >>
In your opinion Is a package that is late not also "suppose to be there"?
<< <i>Sounds to me like he/she owes you $2,000. >>
<< <i>I just don't understand why he would insure it for $300. >>
Because he was trying to make a silly point. Now he'll regret it.
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Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will.
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Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there.
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Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will. >>
The buyer returned the coin but underinsured it for reasons known only to him. When you buy postal insurance you also get a unique tracking number that can be tracked by the usps, but not by anyone else. The buyer went to his PO and had them track the package and they told him that it had been received back at the seller's PO. Seller contacts his PO and is told that a delivery attempt was made, but now the package can't be located. Does it make sense to you now?
Seller should call his PO and ask to speak to his delivery carrier.
<< <i>If he doesn't pay, file a police report AND sue him. >>
This. I think you can even do this in small claims court as well.
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Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will. >>
The buyer returned the coin but underinsured it for reasons known only to him. When you buy postal insurance you also get a unique tracking number that can be tracked by the usps, but not by anyone else. The buyer went to his PO and had them track the package and they told him that it had been received back at the seller's PO. Seller contacts his PO and is told that a delivery attempt was made, but now the package can't be located. Does it make sense to you now?
Seller should call his PO and ask to speak to his delivery carrier. >>
It does , thanks Bajjerfan , to me the post implied it was the would be buyers fault the post office has "lost" this item,underinsured or not it doesn't make it his fault if it's lost ..sure it's his problem if it is but it isnt his fault is how i'm seeing it.
<< <i>Why can't you obtain a valid tracking number from the buyer so you can track/trace it, is he not helping you in that area? >>
He gave me a number that doesnt work.
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He gave me a number that doesnt work.
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet
why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps
why isn't he helpng you to help his cause
why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers.
I also think that the package might just be late or the tracking number was incorrect or some related screwup at/by USPS. This happens all the time, and it's not fair to presume the package is lost just yet.
I think you are right to be miffed, for insuring the package for $300 was just plain wrong no matter how you slice it.
Lastly, I think you should show a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions -- at this point we really don't know what's happened to the package and it could show up tomorrow or a week from now.
If the package does not show up in a reasonable amount of time (say, 3 weeks), then I'd say the buyer owes you the lower of (a) $2000 or (b) some amount lower that you both agree to (and you have the right to not budge off your price).
Just my $0.02, and I hope the coin makes it way back to you safely....Mike
<< <i>I think the price for the coin is a bit excessive, but that's immaterial to who is at fault in this situation.
I also think that the package might just be late or the tracking number was incorrect or some related screwup at/by USPS. This happens all the time, and it's not fair to presume the package is lost just yet.
I think you are right to be miffed, for insuring the package for $300 was just plain wrong no matter how you slice it.
Lastly, I think you should show a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions -- at this point we really don't know what's happened to the package and it could show up tomorrow or a week from now.
If the package does not show up in a reasonable amount of time (say, 3 weeks), then I'd say the buyer owes you the lower of (a) $2000 or (b) some amount lower that you both agree to (and you have the right to not budge off your price).
Just my $0.02, and I hope the coin makes it way back to you safely....Mike >>
honestly i would just like to have it back so i can sell it to someone i trust.
<< <i>Well I sent out a coin to a buyer for an agreed value of $2000. Buyer was not happy with the coin and said it only looked like a coin worth a couple of hundred dollars. Needless to say I said return it. So he supposedly sends it back but with priority mail with NO tracking and only $300 insurance!!!! Well...USPS lost the package and I'm severely pissed off. Is it the buyers responsibility to pay for the lost item for what we agreed on or what I paid for it? I bought it a few years ago and got a great deal on it and think it would sell for more now. Opinions?? >>
I agree 100%. This is crystal clear. If the buyer disagrees on thevalue, fine. Return it, FULLY INSURED FOR $2k. Done. The buyer sounds like an idiot. Goo luck.
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He gave me a number that doesnt work.
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet
why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps
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why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Have you considered the post office might simply havce made a mistake in data entry somewhere?
It would certainly explain where we're at, if not the amount the buyer insured the package for.
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Correct. They even told me they left a pink slip at my house and I never received one at all! Their tracking system is so absurd. What I find hilarious is the buyer was complaining to me just a few days ago how the post office lost a few packages of his recently, I wonder why???? >>
Maybe it's just too early for me but i can't make sense of this or see how it applies.I wonder when this mysterious buyer will out himself as he surely will. >>
The buyer returned the coin but underinsured it for reasons known only to him. When you buy postal insurance you also get a unique tracking number that can be tracked by the usps, but not by anyone else. The buyer went to his PO and had them track the package and they told him that it had been received back at the seller's PO. Seller contacts his PO and is told that a delivery attempt was made, but now the package can't be located. Does it make sense to you now?
Seller should call his PO and ask to speak to his delivery carrier. >>
It does , thanks Bajjerfan , to me the post implied it was the would be buyers fault the post office has "lost" this item,underinsured or not it doesn't make it his fault if it's lost ..sure it's his problem if it is but it isnt his fault is how i'm seeing it. >>
True, the buyer was not responsible for the loss, but he was derelict in his duty to make the seller whole in the event that the USPS failed to perform. Since he chose to gamble and underinsure the package and if the package does indeed end up undelivered then he is on the hook for the difference between the $2K agreed on sales price less any credit he can muster.
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He gave me a number that doesnt work.
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet
why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps
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why aren't you answering these questions, I have asked them repeatedly! >>
he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Maybe TonedRarities should just give you the buyer's number and you can call him directly.
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He gave me a number that doesnt work.
You said that already, so it begs the question(s):
why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet
why hasn't he supplied you with his paperwork that he sent it off insured via usps
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he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Even if he lost the receipt he shud be able to go to his PO and get it as they shud have a list of all of the tracking numbers issued that day.
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He gave me a number that doesnt work.
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why hasn't he supplied you with the right numbers yet
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he supposedly is going today to get me some answers. >>
Why am i not getting this. We all know when we ship a package with insurance via the usps, we getting a receipt. Are you telling me not only did he not ship it with the proper insurance coverage but he also lost the receipt. So when did he lose the receipt, before or after he gave your the wrong tracking numbers? Does that mean when he gave a made up tracking number? Did he ever ship the package , did he ever actually ship it insured or was the $300 insurance made up. I just don't understand what he is going t do TODAY to get some answers. he should have the answers, and if he didn't do what he said he did the usps won't have any answers. Is he buying time of some sort? >>
Maybe TonedRarities should just give you the buyer's number and you can call him directly.
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would love too. He would probably get more answers out of him than me
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Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678
PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me.
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Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678
PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
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no pink slip was left. which leads me to believe something fishy is going on.
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Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678
PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me. >>
I was of the impression that the buyer either had it tracked and passed on what info he was given or had provided the seller with the correct number. Now it appears that neither was the case.
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Late would mean that the package had not been scanned at the receiving post office on the day it was expected to be there. >>
Maybe I am missing a post somewhere but I do not see where anyone at his PO confirmed that the package was scanned there. In fact I am seeing the opposite, that he was given a tracking number that cannot be tracked at all. How can his local PO confirm that the package was scanned there if at the same time he is saying the tracking # is untrackable? What exactly would they punch into the computer to bridge this gap og logic? The "pink slip at his house" also doesnt add up to me. If they cannot track the package with the supposedly wrong tracking # he was given, then how are they making the connection with anything being attempted with a pink slip being left? Let me give you an example of how this doesnt add up.
TR: Hi can you track this package for me? #xxxxx123455678
PO: We show no record of that tracking #, however we tried to deliver it to your house and left a slip.
Does that make any sense to you? Cause it sure does not to me. >>
no pink slip was left. which leads me to believe something fishy is going on. >>
Now I am really lost, you give them a tracking number, they say there is no record but that they tried to deliever and a pink slip was left. How would they know they tried to deliver that package if they don't have a tracking number to know it is that package, I am sure you get other packages? >>
I am only going by what the buyer told me. In a recent PM he stated it was at the PO and that they attempted delivery and a slip was left. No attempt was made, and no slip was left. My family is extremely good friends with our Mailman and he lives right up the street from me, he never forgets to leave a slip. The buyer is telling me the item is at the post office and they are going to return it to him if i dont pick it up. Went there and they dont have it!
this is the number he gave me, which doesnt work.
vf255261195us