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I won an 1889 Quarter in PCGS 66 at Stack's Bowers ANA Auction

MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
I decided to attend session #9 at Stack's Bowers ANA Auction
- basically to see if a friend's Barber Quarters did well - and I saw
a coin I hadn't noticed before - an 1889 Quarter in a PCGS 66 holder.

I have been slowly assembling a complete MS 1889 set - as I already have
a nice 1889 Proof set - I was the only floor bidder - and the Internet/Mail
bidders had stopped - so I put in a floor bid and won the coin.

I called Stack's Bowers and paid for the coin and asked that they ship
after I got home from Chicago. I received three Express boxes today,
one from a friend who sold me some of his AU 58 Liberty Head Nickels,
another box came from Heritage which contained my Barber Halves
"Buy-Backs" and lastly, the box from Stack's Bowers.

This what I was expecting from Stack's Bowers...


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This is what was in the box....


[ A good friend thought I was fibbing until I showed him the Holder's image !! ]






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Of course, I called the Irvine, CA office and they advised me to ship it back
to them Express Mail and they gave me their corporate USPS Account number.

Sorry to say, but the guy in shipping must have been read the Riot Act -
and might not have had a job after shipping a $138,000 coin out in error.

I just hope I get my 1889 Quarter - and that it was shipped in error to the guy who
bought the 1821 Half Eagle.

//////// was day dreaming .... and I wonder what a Mercedes Benz 550 SLR AMG costs ?? image
Mike Hayes
~~~~~~~~~~~~
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yikes!!!!!!
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  • Wow, kudos to you.
  • you are a better man than me.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOWZERS! I hope you get your quarter!
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would hold onto the coin for a day (or maybe through the three day weekend) just to enjoy looking at it and having it in my hands.

    Then I would return it and look forward to receiving the quarter that you purchased.
  • I paid for my coin beginning of the first week after the auction (before invoices were posted on line) and they still haven't shipped mine. I wonder what I'll get.
  • You see what happened was you got my coin. No need to ship it back to the auction house just send it straight to me.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Lucky for them the recipient is a good guy image
  • stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
    I won a roll of bu 42-D nickels from Stacks once, but when the packaged arrived the coins were all 43-D. Worth about $1,800 less. The roll was marked 42-D, so I thought they might accuse me of switching them but they didn't.
  • Wow I would of kept it.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    You photo makes the 1821 look cleaned (or messed with)... image It's best you didn't keep it! image
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  • its only a money!image
  • Yep, that 1821 has been wipe at least, obvious by the stars.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOW!!! Both coins are pretty amazing though.

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yep, that 1821 has been wipe at least, obvious by the stars. >>



    That's very obvious by the sticker included. image
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OTOH, I would of mulled this one around in my tiny brain for a while...............................you did the right thing MFH, good job! image
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You da man Mike! Good karma your way comesimage
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Well the good news is at least you got something. I'm still waiting. image
  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    YAAAAAAAHOOOOOO!!!!!image

    all kidding aside, I would try to return it also...

    ...but wouldn't it be great if you kept it...image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow talk about turning in the holder! imageimage
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Personally I like the shipping guy at Bowers but if I was in charge and that happened I'd want to give him a whoopin' because that is a very significant error.
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  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    Mike,

    What did you do first? Check the address on the mail package? Look closely at the invoice--naming the buyer? Look up the auction price realized for the early $5?

    Or schedule a one way flight to Bali, Indonesia?

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    TahoeDale
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Jeez Louise Mike...

    Good thing for them you are an honest guy. Still waiting for my lots as well. If your quarter shows up I'll let you know image
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Mike,

    What did you do first? Check the address on the mail package? Look closely at the invoice--naming the buyer? Look up the auction price realized for the early $5?

    Or schedule a one way flight to Bali, Indonesia?

    image >>



    Dale,

    My name was on the Express Mail box - I opened it up to
    locate another box - opened that one - found an invoice
    for almost 7 figures - one coin was highlighted - the 1821 Half Eagle -
    ripped open the padded envelope and discovered my 1889 Quarter
    wasn't there. I was very disappointed to be honest with you.

    Now - if the envelope contained your Micro O - I'd have played
    "Mickey The Dunce".

    Seriously, this isn't the first time I've received coins not belonging to
    me - a few companies have clients with the same name as mine.
    Some accounts actually have my name as Mike [ FL ] Hayes.

    This is the first time I ever had such an expensive coin sent to me in error.
    I looked over the invoice a little better this evening - and the correct owner's
    phone number is on it. Although I asked a manager at Stack's Bowers to please
    call the buyer [ more to ask if he received my measley little quarter ] and let him
    know his Half Eagle was safe and [ and at the instructions of Bower's representative]
    that I would be mailing the coin back Express Mail on Tuesday.

    I knew I should have paid for the coin in Chicago and taken it with me... oh well...


    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

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  • I can't afford either coin!

    Enjoyed the story...
    - AKFlyer

    All of my coins are secure in a bank safe-deposit box.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well enjoy the holiday weekend with the 1821! imageimage

    Your smartphone pics are really good! image
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  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lucky for them the recipient is a good guy image >>



    image

    Way to go!
  • It would have been a mistake to think you could keep this coin (not implying this member ever thought of that but some relpies think that could have been an option). Even if they didn't figure it out simply when all coins are distributed and an 1889 quarter is still stittting in the box and the owner of that quarter has the same name as the owner of the missing coin they would have started a full investigation to track down a coin of that value. I don't think anyoned here would risk going to jail because they dangled the forbidden apple in their face and they took a bite.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wow, nice pick ups for sure
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I once had Heritage send me the wrong lot.They actually wanted me to spend my money to ship it back.I said they were not getting it back until they sent me a postage paid return box. The box came in the mail real fast.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. image

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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It would have been a mistake to think you could keep this coin (not implying this member ever thought of that but some relpies think that could have been an option). Even if they didn't figure it out simply when all coins are distributed and an 1889 quarter is still stittting in the box and the owner of that quarter has the same name as the owner of the missing coin they would have started a full investigation to track down a coin of that value. I don't think anyoned here would risk going to jail because they dangled the forbidden apple in their face and they took a bite. >>



    Exactly they would have tracked that coin down and came after whoever had it with with everything they had. People have gone to prison when their banks have accidently put huge amounts of money into their accounts by accident and the people went on spending sprees. And the coin would have been nearly worthless since its so rare, it couldnt have been resold.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    AKFlyer - image
    Mike Hayes
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been in the buyer of the more expensive coins shoes and it's a bit nerve wracking when you accidentally initially get the far lesser coin.

    Yet all situations have worked out as there are still a lot of good folks in this hobby! image
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    values aside, I like the quarter better.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    In all good conscience I couldn't even entertain the thought of keeping that coin;
    I called the correct buyer this morning and he said he hadn't received any coins
    from his large purchase. We discussed his buying habits as they are very diverse
    and also discussed mine.

    We are at a loss as to why one coin out of dozens purchased by him
    would have been singled out to have been shipped - let alone to the
    wrong purchaser.

    His secretary [who picks up his mail] will go thru any shipments on Tuesday
    and will check to see if my 1889 Quarter is among the coins.

    This buyer is no casual purchaser - and he's fit to be tied - and plans on
    speaking with Chris Napolitano on Tuesday.

    In the meantime, I'm babysitting a six figure coin and wondering if and when
    I'll ever receive my 1889 Quarter ...

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • You have me wondering now. I paid for my coin very early and was told it would ship the beginning of the next week (this past week). A full week of shipping and no coin. Could my coin.....?? They couldn't screw up twice, right? I could have driven back to the show and picked this up Friday but was too lazy to battle traffic just to pick this up. Now I wish I had.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In the meantime, I'm babysitting a six figure coin >>



    You can't even send it back on your own as they need to arrange something due to the insurance value.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In all good conscience I couldn't even entertain the thought of keeping that coin;
    I called the correct buyer this morning and he said he hadn't received any coins
    from his large purchase. We discussed his buying habits as they are very diverse
    and also discussed mine.

    We are at a loss as to why one coin out of dozens purchased by him
    would have been singled out to have been shipped - let alone to the
    wrong purchaser.

    His secretary [who picks up his mail] will go thru any shipments on Tuesday
    and will check to see if my 1889 Quarter is among the coins.

    This buyer is no casual purchaser - and he's fit to be tied - and plans on
    speaking with Chris Napolitano on Tuesday.

    In the meantime, I'm babysitting a six figure coin and wondering if and when
    I'll ever receive my 1889 Quarter ... >>




    I'm not sure I would want a six figure coin sitting around my house over a long weekend. Especially one that wasn't mine. I think I would've went straight to the bank and put in in my SDB and then picked it up on the way to ship it.
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Ron Castro of Stack's Bowers gave me their corporate Express Mail account number.
    He did not mention if I should even insure it for a nominal amount.

    Sometimes placing a max insurance on an Express Mail box will throw up a red flag to
    would be crooks - and I don't want to complicate this matter any more than it is already.

    agentjim007 - don't know what to say about your situation - but if you do receive an
    1889 Quarter in error - please let me know !!

    Broadstruck... that new iPhone G4 is the same one used to image the HT token you wanted.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭


    << <i>values aside, I like the quarter better. >>



    +1
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonderful. Now I wonder if I will receive my auctions lots in good order, that I have already paid for.

    Many years ago I received the wrong lots in the mail. I took them back at the next coin show (was the following week, or shortly thereafter) and the person at the action house table treated me like it was MY fault for having the wrong lots.

    If this happens again I will probably tell them they can have the lots back only if they come to my house when I happen to be at home. Or alternatively they can give 110 on my next consignment, although after the previous discussion I would probably be on the "no consign / no bid" list for a long time.
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool story, Mike. Of course you contacted them immediately to get it straightened out, I wouldn't expect any different from
    you, or just about any of the other long time members of this forum.
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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike, that is AMAZING....how come this sort of crap NEVER happens to me? You know, someone who would appreciate a 100K coin????

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  • << <i>Wow I would of kept it. >>



    And you would have been in your total legal right to do so .. IMHO

    Not that it would have been morally correct .. but financially well LOL
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow I would of kept it. >>



    And you would have been in your total legal right to do so .. IMHO

    Not that it would have been morally correct .. but financially well LOL >>




    I don't think I would ever have the legal right to own that coin - even though it
    was shipped to me. I wouldn't want it even if I could claim complete ownership.
    Just as well its going back tomorrow. One less headache.

    More importantly, where's my 1889 Quarter ???

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases


  • << <i>Wow I would of kept it. >>



    ..what go's around ; comes around

    ....and I remember this very situation coming up before and some fellers thought there was no legal obligation to return the coin -

    THINK AGAIN !


  • << <i>

    Sorry to say, but the guy in shipping must have been read the Riot Act -
    and might not have had a job after shipping a $138,000 coin out in error.
    >>



    What guy in shipping after that!
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    Sad to say, but it happens. A few months ago, another prominent coin auction house did the same thing with about $100k of our auction purchases. When I called and told them that the box never arrived, they seemed baffled. A few days later a coin dealer called our office and told us they had a box full of coins that we had already paid for. We straightened it all out.

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