I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either.
<< <i>I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either. >>
goodmomey4badmoney could be spot on. I'm not saying it is or isn't post strike damage....don't know enough about this type of error, but the Aug 15th edition of CW's Collector's Clearinghouse, well, Mike Diamond brings up this exact topic. The ANACS example shown in the article is housed in a newer holder, so, for Charmy's sake, I hope they got them right when they were grading them back when her's was slabbed.
<< <i>I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either. >>
How are genuine foldover errors distinguished from a coin like this with PMD? I'm not that familiar with this type of error.
Thank you for all your opinions - not matter how it got this way (whether intentional or accidental), it is extremely unique and interesting to me, and I am very happy to add it to my collection.
<< <i>I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either. >>
goodmomey4badmoney could be spot on. I'm not saying it is or isn't post strike damage....don't know enough about this type of error, but the Aug 15th edition of CW's Collector's Clearinghouse, well, Mike Diamond brings up this exact topic. The ANACS example shown in the article is housed in a newer holder, so, for Charmy's sake, I hope they got them right when they were grading them back when her's was slabbed. >>
Is it really more valuable as a "foldover"? It seems to me that it would be just as spectacular, if not more so, as a "non-foldover". Not an expert on these; just trying to learn.
I bet that made quite a racket in your garbage disposal.
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As others have said, the "foldover" component of the error is post-strike damage. Therefore a grade of MS-64 can be disregarded.
Subtracting the damage, the coin is still an interesting error. The central portion functioned as a die cap. The copper plating on the reverse face was worn away as the cap struck a succession of planchets. Some of the peripheral parts of the coin broke away from the bottom of the cap.
Any sort of coin -- normal or error -- can function as a die cap if it sticks to the die. It need not cup up toward the hammer die.
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I like that it's still dated
Very nice Charmy!
Nice and with a date too!
bob
<< <i>How can you get a numerical grade out of that one?? >>
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Even using the terms "penny", or "coin" is a bit of a stretch!
OK, I gotta admit, though- it's cool.
<< <i>I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either. >>
goodmomey4badmoney could be spot on. I'm not saying it is or isn't post strike damage....don't know enough about this type of error, but the Aug 15th edition of CW's Collector's Clearinghouse, well, Mike Diamond brings up this exact topic. The ANACS example shown in the article is housed in a newer holder, so, for Charmy's sake, I hope they got them right when they were grading them back when her's was slabbed.
<< <i>I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either. >>
How are genuine foldover errors distinguished from a coin like this with PMD? I'm not that familiar with this type of error.
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<< <i>I regret having to say something bad about this coin, but the "foldover" is post strike damage. This isn't the first time ANACS has made this same mistake either. >>
goodmomey4badmoney could be spot on. I'm not saying it is or isn't post strike damage....don't know enough about this type of error, but the Aug 15th edition of CW's Collector's Clearinghouse, well, Mike Diamond brings up this exact topic. The ANACS example shown in the article is housed in a newer holder, so, for Charmy's sake, I hope they got them right when they were grading them back when her's was slabbed. >>
Is it really more valuable as a "foldover"? It seems to me that it would be just as spectacular, if not more so, as a "non-foldover". Not an expert on these; just trying to learn.
Cool coin BTW, Charmy!
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Must be difficult for the graders to assign a grade, being all mangled n stuff.
Steve
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Subtracting the damage, the coin is still an interesting error. The central portion functioned as a die cap. The copper plating on the reverse face was worn away as the cap struck a succession of planchets. Some of the peripheral parts of the coin broke away from the bottom of the cap.
Any sort of coin -- normal or error -- can function as a die cap if it sticks to the die. It need not cup up toward the hammer die.
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