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bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was in my local coin shop the other day and the dealer showed me a 1944 Jefferson nickel that didn't the typical large mint mark on the reverse

He said it weighed a little on the heavy side .

How rare are those ? Is it worth trying to buy from him or just a curiosity ?

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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, they are worth way more than the real thing. There is a great story behind them too. link
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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    Google or search for "Henning Nickel"

    They are very interesting!

    The 1944's tend to go for 15-30 bucks.
  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭
    "the infamous counterfeit"

    i had one of those a long time ago... they're interesting
  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    You can do a search here for "Henning" and see lots of
    threads, including this one...

    Just One Henning Nickel Thread

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    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

  • Henning's are worth anywhere from $15-$80 each, there are other dates also.
  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Henning" Nickel huh? image

    Fill me in more as I have had this in my holdings for 20 years as you can see and picked it up from my local dealer for I`m thinking 50 cents or $1.00.
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    Did I "do good" by buying a counterfeit? image

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Henning's are worth anywhere from $15-$80 each, there are other dates also. >>



    The other dates are 1939, 1946, 1947, 1953, and another date, which I think might be 1940. The other dates are worth around $200 each.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    You know, I don't really want to open a can of worms here, but how can the government go after a legally struck (and arguably legally released) coin like the 1933 Saint when they don't care about the existence and trade of blatantly and provably counterfeit coins like the Henning nickel?
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Monday I'll have to go down and see if he wants to sell it if the hurricane doesn't shut him down, his store is located right on the water.

    He wasn't pushing it at all , he said it just came in so maybe he hasn't decided what he wants for it of if hes going to keep it.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You know, I don't really want to open a can of worms here, but how can the government go after a legally struck (and arguably legally released) coin like the 1933 Saint when they don't care about the existence and trade of blatantly and provably counterfeit coins like the Henning nickel? >>



    Oh they care-If you try to spend one. And the guy (Henning) was arrested. They generally though do not bother collectors of contemporary counterfeits even though they have to power to confiscate them at will. The government can and does make up any rules it wants.

    edited to add--This is the coin that got him in hot water..no mint mark on a 1944 nickel. These may never have been discovered if it weren't for the 1944.
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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Henning's are worth anywhere from $15-$80 each, there are other dates also. >>



    The other dates are 1939, 1946, 1947, 1953, and another date, which I think might be 1940. The other dates are worth around $200 each. >>



    I kept a BST thread bumped for a month offering 200 each for the other dates.

    Response: Cricket noises.

    edit to say: bumped for 4 months
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never had an interest in owning this......what's the point?

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The other dates are 1939, 1946, 1947, 1953, and another date, which I think might be 1940. The other dates are worth around $200 each. >> >>



    Anyone have any photos of the other dates?
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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If memory serves correctly the Feds found the unstruck blanks good enough to turn over to the mint and the mint used them to strike up nickels. The "Henning Nickel" is the holy grail for those of us who actively search nickel rolls for the rares.

    The 1944 was the giveaway, because he missed the large mintmark on the back. But what makes all of the dates of the counterfeits different is the little divot on the R in Pluribus on the reverse of the coin - they all have that same curious R.

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    And circulate they did, sometimes for a long time.


  • << <i>You know, I don't really want to open a can of worms here, but how can the government go after a legally struck (and arguably legally released) coin like the 1933 Saint when they don't care about the existence and trade of blatantly and provably counterfeit coins like the Henning nickel? >>

    Perhaps because they are ..... Nickels? image
  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've never had an interest in owning this......what's the point? >>



    It has an interesting story.
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I've never had an interest in owning this......what's the point? >>



    It has an interesting story. >>



    They are an integral part of the story of American coinage, a well known instance of someone forging a low value coin in quantity and not at any sense of profit; for the apparent thrill of doing it.

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