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Exercise in Frustration - Answering Questions I Didn't Ask
Obiwancanoli
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As I typically do, I'd been watching a particular coin on Ebay from a seller with more than 9300 feedbacks, albeit with 99.3% of them positive. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, as the coin apeared to be something fitting my collection.
So, I go down to the "Ask a Question" link, and I ask the following:
Good Afternoon! This is a nice looking coin, and I have a few questions please: Are there any hairlines on obv/rev? In your estimation, has the coin been cleaned? Are there discerable bag marks or other blemishes not visible in your auction photos? To your knowledge, has the coin been previously submitted for grading? Thank you for your prompt reply, sir.
His reply:
PLEASE JUDGE THE PHOTOS FOR YOURSELF
THEY REALLY ARE QUITE ACCURATE PHOTOS
It seems to me a feeble attempt at deflection from a seller who doesn't want to be found telling an untruth, while at the same time avoiding any semblance of an answer to my inquiries. If this were a coin shop, and I asked the same questions of the dealer, is it unreasonable to expect the seller/dealer to be honest in dealing with a potential customer?
Maybe I'm just naiive, but dammit, it's enough of a crapshoot already, without having to dodge charlatans whose apparent purpose is to move merchandise absent any level of service to the source of his profits - buyers like me. Return priveledge or not, the last time I posted on something similar, I was hammered for NOT asking questions. I don't feel my inquiries to this dealer were out of line or offensive (but am open to any criticisms thereof).
Needless to say, I won't be buying ANYTHING from this particular dealer - an apparently well known seller on eBay - and may or may not be a member of this forum. Whatever the case, I feel frustrated (as if THAT will ever end, shopping on eBay) that a supposedly professional seller seems onterested only in selling deception, and not, as buyers would expect, interested in nurturing reasonably knowledgeable collectors who might return time and again. In this case, the seller permanently lost a potential loyal customer.
I have faith, particularly with regard to those members from whom I have acquired many coins on this forum.
The hunt continues...
Thanks for letting me vent...
OwC
So, I go down to the "Ask a Question" link, and I ask the following:
Good Afternoon! This is a nice looking coin, and I have a few questions please: Are there any hairlines on obv/rev? In your estimation, has the coin been cleaned? Are there discerable bag marks or other blemishes not visible in your auction photos? To your knowledge, has the coin been previously submitted for grading? Thank you for your prompt reply, sir.
His reply:
PLEASE JUDGE THE PHOTOS FOR YOURSELF
THEY REALLY ARE QUITE ACCURATE PHOTOS
It seems to me a feeble attempt at deflection from a seller who doesn't want to be found telling an untruth, while at the same time avoiding any semblance of an answer to my inquiries. If this were a coin shop, and I asked the same questions of the dealer, is it unreasonable to expect the seller/dealer to be honest in dealing with a potential customer?
Maybe I'm just naiive, but dammit, it's enough of a crapshoot already, without having to dodge charlatans whose apparent purpose is to move merchandise absent any level of service to the source of his profits - buyers like me. Return priveledge or not, the last time I posted on something similar, I was hammered for NOT asking questions. I don't feel my inquiries to this dealer were out of line or offensive (but am open to any criticisms thereof).
Needless to say, I won't be buying ANYTHING from this particular dealer - an apparently well known seller on eBay - and may or may not be a member of this forum. Whatever the case, I feel frustrated (as if THAT will ever end, shopping on eBay) that a supposedly professional seller seems onterested only in selling deception, and not, as buyers would expect, interested in nurturing reasonably knowledgeable collectors who might return time and again. In this case, the seller permanently lost a potential loyal customer.
I have faith, particularly with regard to those members from whom I have acquired many coins on this forum.
The hunt continues...
Thanks for letting me vent...
OwC
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Russ, NCNE
I had hoped to compare my observations to the seller's responses, but of course, that isn't going to happen, and I hate returning a coin because it turned out something other than what it was portrayed to be.
Whaddya think?
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
Russ, NCNE
Can you read between the lines?
<< <i>I think the seller saved you the trouble of returning an over-described non full bands slider.
Russ, NCNE >>
I agree with Russ. The middle bands, to me anyway, appear close, but
not quite...... A shame...
<< <i>I think the seller saved you the trouble of returning an over-described non full bands slider.
Russ, NCNE >>
I'm not so positive the surfaces are original, either. I know the lighting is harsh, but the surfaces just look a little bit off...
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Pass....................
The seller clearly did not want to get into a situation where he gave a Super-Duper Description then have someone buy it and return it claiming the 1 hairline was actually 1/4 of a millimeter longer than described when you tilt to a particular angle etc...or maybe he does not think it was cleaned then you get it and say it has been cleaned....then return it. I understand his point of view but there has to be some happy medium in there somewhere. He seems to be the less-than-honest/forthcoming type to me.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
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It's one of those coins you have to see in hand. Who knows if there aren't any hairlines the photo doesn't show?
19-D often come with die breaks which this coin has none of. It is also close to FB. So given that the coin is not certified it needs to be seen IN HAND...no ifs ands or buts. I mean, this coins looks EXCEPTIONAL as a 19-D so why isn't it certified? Does the seller explain why? If I were selling I'd either explain why it's not or have it slabbed.
However, the dingus of a seller doesn't want to respond so I'd tell him to go pound sand. As a seller I'd know full well this needs to have a very good return policy if you want to sell it. Period. As a buyer, if the policy isn't there then bye bye.
jom
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