Do Not Accept a Check From This Guy!

PTBarnum · July 7, 2011 9:57AM

Do not accept checks from TECMAC, William or Bill Sloan. He wrote us a fraudulent check and has produced a forged cashier's check to another dealer. Beware

Here is the info I have on him

William Sloan
TECMAC
5307 4th Ave. Ste. 140
Seattle WA 98106
206-619-4531

Also, please be aware, the note listed below is a stolen item. If it is offered to you, please let us know. Thank you

Fr. 122 $10 1901 Legal Tender "Bison" PCGS 58 PPQ serial #E45739843

If you have any questions, call or email me

Meredith Hilton
Kagin's, Inc.
415-435-2601
meredith@kagins.com

SNMAN · July 7, 2011 10:00AM

Here is your picture! sorry to hear

PTBarnum · July 7, 2011 10:05AM

This may be a stupid question but how do you post pictures?

llafoe · July 7, 2011 10:14AM

Select this image:

and then copy the URL into the new window.

Zoins · July 7, 2011 10:28AM

<<

Here is your picture! sorry to hear

>>

Ouch !

coindeuce · July 7, 2011 10:48AM

I believe Sloan is also named in a broadcast on C.C.E. about similar activity.

Copied and pasted from C.C.E. 7/7 broadcast by GS4(The Reeded Edge):
***FRAUD ALERT***

William Sloan
TECMAC
5307 4th Ave Ste 140
Seattle, WA 98106

Attempted to buy a $4,000 coin and sent a bad Bank of America check.
Sent the check very quickly, I guess with hopes that the coin would
ship quickly as well. Another dealer has already posted about this
individual, and I thought we should as well.

Fortunately, we did not ship him any goods, but be very careful out
there.

Please call or direct if you have further questions. Thanks, Robbie

PTBarnum · July 7, 2011 11:51AM

Thank you

Banemorth · July 7, 2011 11:52AM

There's a special place in hell for scumbags like these.

Best of luck to you.

FullCameo · July 7, 2011 12:41PM

If it's not against CU rules you need to post this guy's name in the title of this thread. Just in case anyone else does a search on him his name pops up with this thread.

Bear · July 7, 2011 2:53PM

WOW, nice note indeed. The crook has good taste at least.

PTBarnum · July 7, 2011 3:33PM

it appears to be against the rules, edited version was quickly removed

boucharda · July 7, 2011 4:35PM

Sounds like some legal action should have been taken otherwise it will continue to go on and on....

gonzer · July 7, 2011 9:46PM

As Bear alluded to, that note's design is exquisite. Imagine if the BE's engravers back then had moonlighted at the Mint designing coins.

johnny9434 · July 8, 2011 3:34AM

bummer about the check but that is a very nice note

. will keep an eye out for it as well

coinandcurrency242 · July 8, 2011 3:40AM

I swear the morals of society have collapsed now a days

mozeppa · July 8, 2011 3:40AM

what would that note sell for?

mrearlygold · July 8, 2011 3:47AM

Thank you for the alert!

devious · July 8, 2011 3:56AM

<< I swear the morals of society have collapsed now a days

>>

Not quite! I must disagree. Society is still as it was 10, 20, even thirty years ago. The only thing different is...We have mass communication, web forums, speed of light telecommunications to broadcast everything negative and maybe, every once in a while, something positive.

PRONOIA+++

PTBarnum · July 8, 2011 4:31AM

I had the note listed for $4,500 - he asked me if I could do better and I sold it to him for $4,200. It took 10 working days for the bank to let us know the check was fake. Unfortunately, the note was shipped to his private mail box at The Postal Exchange days before the bank notified us. He has contacted several other dealers - so spread the word so that this does not happen to anyone else. Needless to say, I have learned a lesson

Here are some other postings from CCE

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***FRAUD ALERT***

William Sloan
TECMAC
5307 4th Ave Ste 140
Seattle, WA 98106

Attempted to buy a $4,000 coin and sent a bad Bank of America check.
Sent the check very quickly, I guess with hopes that the coin would
ship quickly as well. Another dealer has already posted about this
individual, and I thought we should as well.

Fortunately, we did not ship him any goods, but be very careful out
there.

Please call or direct if you have further questions. Thanks, Robbie

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MISC X 7/8/2011 00:21 KG9 Kagin's Inc. (1) 415-435-2601
( 2 of 16 ) - Dealer web site View or print this message
Do not accept a check from TECMAC, William or Bill Sloan. He wrote us
a fraudulent check and has produced a forged cashier's check to
another dealer. Beware! His address is a private mail box (eg Mail
Boxes Etc.) called The Postal Exchange.

Here is the info I have on him:

William Sloan
TECMAC
5307 4th Ave. Ste. 140
Seattle WA 98106
206-619-4531

Also, please be aware, the note listed below is stolen. If it is
offered to you, please let us know or contact Officer Allen Klemme at
Tiburon PD (415) 789-2800. Thank you

Fr. 122 $10 1901 Legal Tender "Bison" PCGS 58 PPQ serial
#E45739843

If you have any questions, call or email me

Meredith Hilton
Kagin's, Inc.
415-435-2601
meredith@kagins.com

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MISC X 7/5/2011 10:50 GS4 Reeded Edge, Inc. (The) (1) 301-724-0400
( 6 of 16 ) - Dealer web site View or print this message
Just a thought....has anyone been burned by this William Sloan/TECMAC
character?

Seems like a lot of bad checks were sent, but hopefully most did not
send merchandise.

Is anyone taking any action on this guy, like turning the matter over
to Postal Inspectors?

Advise by direct or on open.

Robbie

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MISC X 6/30/2011 11:35 C82 RARCOA - Rare Coin Co. of America (1) 630-654-2580
( 11 of 16 ) - Dealer web site View or print this message
FRAUD ALERT

We too have received an order with check from:

William Sloan
TECMAC, INC
5307 4th Avenue Suite 140
Seattle WA 98106
206-619-4591

The check had a stop payment on it 5 days after we received it.

Jeff

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MISC X 6/30/2011 11:19 C26 Coast To Coast Coins (1) 410-309-1622
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Saw a couple of fraud messages about the following sending bad
checks:

William Sloan
TECMAC, INC
5307 4th Avenue Suite 140
Seattle WA 98106
206-619-4591

Ordered a $4000 piece of currency over the phone. Just got the check
the other day and already was holding the merchandise waiting for the
check to clear. It hasn't been long enough to come back bad but after
what I read I expect it will. Thx for the heads up. Will.

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MISC X 6/29/2011 12:00 DP5 Annapolis Coin Exchange (1) 410-266-9869
( 15 of 16 ) - (No dealer web site) View or print this message
Bad Check Alert:
We just had a check returned to us as altered/fictitious. It is a
Bank of America check for $2,495.00. Package being returned to us as
undeliverable as addressed. Don't know what the plan was for the
person behind this.

Order placed by:
William Sloan
c/o TECMAC
5307 4th Ave. Suite 140
Seattle, Washington 98106

This might be a legitimate person with no knowledge of what has
transpired. Just a suggestion that you all be careful.

Take care,

Bob Hambleton
Annapolis Coin Exchange

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I have contacted our local police, if you have any information you would like to share reply here , contact me directly or Office Allen Klemme at the Tiburon PD (415) 789-2800

Thank you

Meredith Hilton
Kagin's, Inc.
415-435-2601
meredith@kagins.com

Shortgapbob · July 8, 2011 4:37AM

This guy is definitely bad news and needs to be stopped.

Bochiman · July 8, 2011 4:40AM

Someone needs to accept one of his "deals", ship a very noticeable package, and wait & watch for that pickup....then have a "constructive" conversation with the thief.....

PTBarnum · July 8, 2011 4:48AM

hmm, now you got me thinking...

Bochiman · July 8, 2011 5:00AM

<< hmm, now you got me thinking... >>

For the kind of item(s) and money that you are losing to him, I would seriously think about it.
I don't go to downtown Seattle much (maybe once a year) but I would go, check the place out, and ship a brightly colored package and see who picks it up.

BBQnBLUES · July 8, 2011 5:03AM

Hmmm sounds like a "Unibomber" needs to send him a pkg with a coin companies return address..

mrearlygold · July 8, 2011 6:23AM

<< I swear the morals of society have collapsed now a days

>>

Yup and it's accelerating. Gee I wonder why

FullCameo · July 8, 2011 12:10PM

<< 

<< hmm, now you got me thinking... >>

For the kind of item(s) and money that you are losing to him, I would seriously think about it.
I don't go to downtown Seattle much (maybe once a year) but I would go, check the place out, and ship a brightly colored package and see who picks it up. >>

That's an excellent idea. At least grab a camera when you go if you don't have a police officer handy.

derryb · July 8, 2011 1:01PM

<< It took 10 working days for the bank to let us know the check was fake. Unfortunately, the note was shipped to his private mail box at The Postal Exchange days before the bank notified us. >>

My check policy: No checks. If I can make a trip to the post office to send you the coin, you can make a trip to the post office to purchase a postal money order(s).

Jobessi · July 8, 2011 1:11PM

If you do send him a package and bust him, make sure to catch it on film, & post it on youtube for all of us to see!

streeter · July 8, 2011 1:19PM

PTBarnum · July 9, 2011 6:35AM

Thank you, all good ideas

BigE · July 9, 2011 8:52AM

Another good idea, delete some of the above posts just in case and communicate via PM

-------BigE

leothelyon · July 9, 2011 2:48PM

<< 

<< 

<< hmm, now you got me thinking... >>

For the kind of item(s) and money that you are losing to him, I would seriously think about it.
I don't go to downtown Seattle much (maybe once a year) but I would go, check the place out, and ship a brightly colored package and see who picks it up. >>

That's an excellent idea. At least grab a camera when you go if you don't have a police officer handy. >>

.....or if your taekwondo is not up to par.........

Leo

PTBarnum · July 11, 2011 4:58AM

Thought I would bump this to minimize the chance of someone else getting ripped off

KDCURRENCY · July 18, 2011 3:13AM

William Sloan aka "Billy" Sent me 2 bad checks, one altered/fictitious & one Forgery. I got the same "TecMac" check from Bank of America as Meridith did. It turns out the company is ACTUALLY "MacTec" out of Georgia. Don't sell to him. The 2 stolen Notes: $1000 PMG 58 EPQ's.

2212-G G00248521A PMG 58 EPQ
2212-G G00265142A PMG 58 EPQ

MsMorrisine · July 18, 2011 4:30AM

If it is an out of state crook, I'd bet the police wouldn't touch the guy even with photographic evidence of who he is.

You could provide his real name, address, license number, SSN, home address, parents' address, and work address with hours and the police wouldn't go after them.

The best offense and defense is just not to get burned by a check scheme in the first place.

LanceNewmanOCC · July 18, 2011 6:31AM

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<< I swear the morals of society have collapsed now a days

>>

i'm 32 very soon to be 33 and it morals are obviously a large part but it is really

inherent weaknesses and a failure to appreciate the effects of our decisions for ourselves and others

90% of my poor decisions have been due to the failure to appreciate how they will affect me at the time and later on as well for others

flat-out laziness is a huge drawback as well, ie lack of motivation, drive, desire for quality traits

remember "fear" is at the center of it all
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PTBarnum · August 2, 2013 7:43AM

I just got an email, apparently this guy back looking for more.

DO NOT ACCEPT CHECKS FROM WILLIAM SLOAN OF TECMAC

I received this email earilier today

Hello Mr. Hilton,

I have recently taken over the Credit/Collections department here at Mystic Stamp Co. and have found that we too had received and processed a bad check from Mr. Sloan under the fraudulent checking account with the TECMAC at 5307 4th Ave, Ste140, Seattle, WA 98106 address. In looking on the internet, I found your posts on the PCGS Currency Forum and Collectors Universe Message Boards about this guy. He clipped us for $3,297.00 and a nice set of VFNH Graf Zeppelins.

Were you ever able to recover anything on your loss?

Sincerely,
Courtney Roser
Credit/Collections
Mystic Stamp Co.
1-800-433-7811 Ext. 2137

Call or email me for details

Meredith Hilton
Kagin's, Inc.

415-435-2601
Meredith@kagins.com

coindeuce · August 2, 2013 11:15AM

It would seem prudent to provide the Postal OIG with this information, as obviously "Billy" has fraudulently obtained in excess of $10,000 worth of merchandise by U.S. mail, using forged instruments. If this does not represent the commission of a federal felony, I can't imagine what would.
Here's hoping that the victims that have posted here have made an effort to collaborate and report this information to:

Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org

PerryHall · August 2, 2013 9:34PM

If they have his address and phone number, why hasn't he been arrested? I would think someone (police, postal inspectors, FBI, etc) would have shut him down by now.

Do Not Accept a Check From This Guy!

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