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BAJJERFAN
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His prices were out of this world!!!
Successful BST xactions w/PCcoins, Drunner, Manofcoins, Rampage, docg, Poppee, RobKool, and MichealDixon.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Looks like that seller with the Canadian proof silver dollar finally wised up. >>
another doily out on ebay
Looks like someone sent in a load of them at the same time . . . . .
Drunner
(Semi Self-absorbed Frilly Plastic Accumulator)
<< <i>I too would think it will crest the $400 mark. I would be blown away to see it go for less than $350. >>
Maybe for someone looking to add variety to their collection. That sat at $495 for several months. I added it to my inventory for S&G, but PCGS has no published value for it.
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I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Well, Pharmer (duffydaddy1) has a history of ending auctions early when they don't reach the level he wants, so let's see if this one actually ends on time.... >>
Guess I dint know or remember who duffydaddy1 was!!
<< <i>Is that '61 Franklin showing O/C? >>
o/c what?
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<< <i>Is that '61 Franklin showing O/C? >>
o/c what? >>
Off center.
<< <i>That coin is going to bring moon money. The $300 plus range would not surprise me.
Russ, NCNE >>
I agree, but before he was asking Mars money.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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<< <i>Is that '61 Franklin showing O/C? >>
o/c what? >>
Off center. >>
Dunno. You be the judge!!
<< <i>I too would think it will crest the $400 mark. I would be blown away to see it go for less than $350. >>
Be prepared to be blown away!!!
<< <i>I've got 8181924 (just 4 off) -- a PR66 1960 Frankie.
Looks like someone sent in a load of them at the same time . . . . .
Drunner
(Semi Self-absorbed Frilly Plastic Accumulator) >>
Didn't that Frankie come from Boston, Jeff?????
I would have thought it would approach $500 with all that color.
<< <i>The Canadian proof brought $340 tonight. >>
Yep. It did.
Yes . it DID!!!!!
Just got back from 3 days at the ranch . . . the sunsets were stupendous and the maniacs in Evanston were at it tonight . . .nowhere else do neighbors war on neighbors with armament legally purchased that could rival what we dump in the Sandbox any day of the year. Truly impressive! If you want to watch . .don a Nomex firesuit and a full-face Simpson helmet. It's really "trailer parker v. trailer parker for yearly bragging rights . . .
Ken . .your Frankie was great . .and resides in the Drunner Doily Set!!!!
Now did this recent Frankie go for a bit more than I paid back in the day when a much-prized specimen arrived from a buddy? Yup. But . . . the I'll repay the favor with a Single Malt that will leave you breathless . . and time you get a chance to come out . .
Drunner
Canadian coins in the PCGS doily do not garner quite the same level of interest as US coins in the same slab. That has been shown time and time again with the Danny Kaye Israeli coin in the PCGS Regency slab.
I cannot help but wonder what this slab would have sold for had I not bid both the $235 and $335 prices. It could have gone for as little as $215. The bidding on this coin as you can see, is very very thin. The same three bidders for the top 6 bids.
Certainly a warning sign to me that we better not keep driving these prices up as sooner or later we are going to see a classic collapse in these prices if only one or more bidder goes through buying fatigue. In fact, I was almost relieved that I did not win that Canadian $1. The ultra strong bidding price I placed was getting me a little nervous. The previous $400 to $500 price set by the seller was based on unrealistic hype.
I am going to look at the doily Franklin half next.
4***e ( 292Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $340.00
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Member Id: l***l ( 426Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $335.00
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Member Id: 4***e ( 292Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $200.00
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Member Id: l***l ( 426Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $135.00
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What this slab would have sold for had I not bid both the $255 and $155 prices? It could have gone for as little as $205, not a huge difference between the closing price of $260 and the possible alternative price of $205.
The bidding on this coin as you can see, is more vigorous. The top four bids were from different bidders but looks like only my bid drove the price significantly above $205. Perhaps this is the true value of a doily slab with an ultra common coin?
Member Id: t***a ( 626Feedback score is 500 to 999) US $260.00
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Member Id: c***l ( 444Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $165.00
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Member Id: s***l ( 63Feedback score is 50 to 99) US $117.00
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Member Id: l***l ( 426Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $105.00
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Member Id: d***l ( 3113Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $50.00
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Member Id: s***o ( 4068Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $45.50
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Starting Price US $0.99
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<< <i>I am now blown away...it's kind of anti-climactic honestly. >>
$260 for that Frankie....a simple PR66? I'm seriously blown away. Man, these Doilies are going to the moon!
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<< <i>I am now blown away...it's kind of anti-climactic honestly. >>
$260 for that Frankie....a simple PR66? I'm seriously blown away. Man, these Doilies are going to the moon! >>
No, not the Frankie, I was suprised at the Canadian piece. Not that the coin is rare, but I don't know of many forgien coins in Doily holders (actually this is the first that will be added to the census.) I thought that it would garner more appreciation simply because at this point, it's unique.
What this slab would have sold for had I not bid both the $255 and $155 prices? It could have gone for as little as $205, not a huge difference between the closing price of $260 and the possible alternative price of $205.
The bidding on this coin as you can see, is more vigorous. The top four bids were from different bidders but looks like only my bid drove the price significantly above $205. Perhaps this is the true value of a doily slab with an ultra common coin?
I would not have let the Canadian piece sell for $215 I was watching it, and I'm sure there were others also, I was prepared to pay up to $300, and I usually only bid in the last few hours of the auction. I never got a chance to bid since it crested my max bid before the end was nigh.
I was also privy to the Franklin, but I'm not nearly as fond of Franks, in or out of Doilies. I was willing to bid at $200.
<< <i>No, not the Frankie, I was suprised at the Canadian piece. Not that the coin is rare, but I don't know of many forgien coins in Doily holders (actually this is the first that will be added to the census.) I thought that it would garner more appreciation simply because at this point, it's unique. >>
Billet7:
Appreciation for scarcity when exclusivity works until it becomes so isolated as a foreign coin that most collectors of US coins quickly lose interest.
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<< <i>No, not the Frankie, I was suprised at the Canadian piece. Not that the coin is rare, but I don't know of many forgien coins in Doily holders (actually this is the first that will be added to the census.) I thought that it would garner more appreciation simply because at this point, it's unique. >>
Billet7:
Appreciation for scarcity when exclusivity works until it becomes so isolated as a foreign coin that most collectors of US coins quickly lose interest. >>
Wise words, and true, sometimes things are scarce because no one wants them. I think perhaps being in a PCGS holder appeals to the US collector, and the Canadian coin would appeal to a Canadian collector, ergo our interest in the piece is diminished because of lack of synergy between the two camps of buyers. At the same time, if it's rare...usually anything that is rare eventually becomes recognized...not always but usually. I am reminded of a notable collector who put together one of the finest collections of Russian coinage. He did it during a time when there was little demand for them since it was illegal to collect them in the USSR. Time passed and eventually Russia became a democracy and his collection became extrememly valuable because of increased collector interest.
Sometimes coin collecting can be more about seizing an opportunity when no one else cares. As a recent thread showed, a man bought an old bank in a bad neighborhood for around $100,000. Now it's worth over $30 million. It's all about forward thinking.
For the record, I did not bid at all on the Canadian. Most of you sharp types already know that as you've figured out whatever eBay uses as my ID (I never even try to see what shows up--when I look it just shows my full eBay logon thingy). On the Frankie . . . I threw up a $120 bid before I went to the ranch as that would have made it the most expensive of my Frankies (PR or MS) by about $20. All else after that point was other bidders. As my main competition on the Doilies knows . . . I am straight-up to a fault, so others did the bidding.
I have received some good counsel here in my quest for the Doilies. Savvy collectors have mentioned quite a bit about the search, prices, availability, and the future of 'rare' slab collecting in general. My quick thoughts on the state of the Doily market would be that if the prices keep climbing, I will rethink my justification for the 'collect at any cost' attitude. There are several ways to find them and eBay is only one EXPENSIVE way. When I have acquired all of my simple Frankies for about a third of what this one went for, it might be time to bow out of the eBay hunt and press on with other avenues to find the Doilies. I agree with Oreville that this could be a bubble and the bidding for either the Frankie or the Canadian could have been affected by very slight changes in the selling and bidding dynamic. I just have a hard time going after these things when the majority of those I acquired were for so much more reasonable prices.
Finding more unique coins in Doilies is starting to rapidly overtake just adding more Mercs and Morgans. Heck, in the beginning I was thinking I might just be able to collect ALL of the survivors . . . back when there were 105 known. Uh . . . scratch that naive plan. I had some consideration while I drove out to the ranch . . . . the Doily slabbing period was right when Morgans were going for $500 or so in MS65, wasn't it? I know I'll be corrected if I am wrong, but I wonder if that is why we see so many Morgans in the Doily? Will that also tend to bolster the thought that after this long and this much interest, there still are very few other denominations found? I wonder if this will continue . . . Morgans like crazy and very few Lincolns, Washies, or obsolete coins?
Oh well . .just rambling. Got to pack to head to Gunnison for 9 days . . . .
Let me know your thoughts . .
Drunner
I do feel that the Canadian had a bit going for it. I now look for uniqueness in a Doily and to me (not speaking of anyone else or collecting trends), I thought that was quite a cool coin. Having the only foreign coin in a Doily known thus far originally really sparked my interest. I still think it is a super acquisition and given the special nature of it, went a bit cheap when compared to many other common-as-dirt Doilies. Just my perspective . . . and a personal opinion of how I thought about it. I understand the other viewpoints too.
Drunner