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Is this some kind of Colonial die trial, or what ?

dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
Bronze, 27mm diameter (not counting eccentric flange), coin-turn orientation, smooth edge, thin (about 1mm thick).
PS: He's got a doggie bone sticking out of the back of his neck.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Or what?

    drawn and quartered comes to mind!

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bungtown copper.
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭
    I would say Canadian Blacksmith copper.

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    Edit: Appears to be the W-4 variety.
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
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    NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would say Canadian Blacksmith copper.

    Reference

    Edit: Appears to be the W-4 variety. >>



    I agree. It is a Blacksmith copper, which circulated in colonial period Canada as well as parts of the United States. Most U.S. colonial collectors try to acquire one as an association piece. There are many varieties, including some that were muled with Hard Times token reverses (which are very rare.). They are a very interesting series. Your piece is actually fairly high grade for a Blacksmith, probably grading choice VF condition. They were made to look circulated and there was very little detail in the dies to begin with. Cool piece.

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "doggie bone". I like that. image
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I would say Canadian Blacksmith copper.

    Reference

    Edit: Appears to be the W-4 variety. >>



    I agree. It is a Blacksmith copper, which circulated in colonial period Canada as well as parts of the United States. Most U.S. colonial collectors try to acquire one as an association piece. There are many varieties, including some that were muled with Hard Times token reverses (which are very rare.). They are a very interesting series. Your piece is actually fairly high grade for a Blacksmith, probably grading choice VF condition. They were made to look circulated and there was very little detail in the dies to begin with. Cool piece. >>



    Yes, that appears to be what it is. Thanks for the information !

    For no appearent reason, a dealer at the recent Colorado Springs Coin Show asked me out of the blue if I wanted this thing for a dollar. My first thought was, what else am I going to do with a dollar ? And then he threw in a 1965 dime with a genuine clipped planchet error. So I gave him a President Dollar.
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭
    That deserves a "you suck" I think. (I realize it's not super valuable, but it is rather cool.)
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That deserves a "you suck" I think. (I realize it's not super valuable, but it is rather cool.) >>



    A "you suck" light, perhaps ?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I would say Canadian Blacksmith copper.

    Reference

    Edit: Appears to be the W-4 variety. >>



    I agree. It is a Blacksmith copper, which circulated in colonial period Canada as well as parts of the United States. Most U.S. colonial collectors try to acquire one as an association piece. There are many varieties, including some that were muled with Hard Times token reverses (which are very rare.). They are a very interesting series. Your piece is actually fairly high grade for a Blacksmith, probably grading choice VF condition. They were made to look circulated and there was very little detail in the dies to begin with. Cool piece. >>



    Yes, that appears to be what it is. Thanks for the information !

    For no appearent reason, a dealer at the recent Colorado Springs Coin Show asked me out of the blue if I wanted this thing for a dollar. My first thought was, what else am I going to do with a dollar ? And then he threw in a 1965 dime with a genuine clipped planchet error. So I gave him a President Dollar. >>



    One of your own make?

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    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I would say Canadian Blacksmith copper.

    Reference

    Edit: Appears to be the W-4 variety. >>



    I agree. It is a Blacksmith copper, which circulated in colonial period Canada as well as parts of the United States. Most U.S. colonial collectors try to acquire one as an association piece. There are many varieties, including some that were muled with Hard Times token reverses (which are very rare.). They are a very interesting series. Your piece is actually fairly high grade for a Blacksmith, probably grading choice VF condition. They were made to look circulated and there was very little detail in the dies to begin with. Cool piece. >>



    Yes, that appears to be what it is. Thanks for the information !

    For no appearent reason, a dealer at the recent Colorado Springs Coin Show asked me out of the blue if I wanted this thing for a dollar. My first thought was, what else am I going to do with a dollar ? And then he threw in a 1965 dime with a genuine clipped planchet error. So I gave him a President Dollar. >>



    One of your own make?

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    Nope, a regular US Mint one (Grant, business strike).
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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting piece, yet the "doggie bone" looks more akin to the creature from "Aliens".

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