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Need some help with this bust half

I have not posted anything in a while but I just bought this half today. And yes I know is scratched to hell.

Question #1 is it real or is it fake? I bought it knowing it had problems but I'm struggling with this one. It almost looks fake.....

Question #2 if it is real what variety is it . It is eaither double die or more likely double struck...

Either wway it was only $20 so I'm ok any way this post leads......

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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
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    Thank you!
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    BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a contemporary counterfeit. I think you did well for $20.00.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm no half dollar expert, but it looks like a modern fake.

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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275


    << <i>I'm no half dollar expert, but it looks like a modern fake. >>


    I'm at least 95% certain it is contemporary, unless a modern fake can be found which matches this die marriage?
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    It's fake, but cool.image
    Becky
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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I could be wrong, but this one looks to me like Obv. 17 Rev. S, as found in CONTEMPORARY CAPPED BUST HALF DOLLARS Second Edition by Keith Davignon. Keith list only one piece known. German silver. Reeded edge. VERY SCARCE
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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    the edge is flat on this one and this coin already found a new homeimage
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275


    << <i>I could be wrong, but this one looks to me like Obv. 17 Rev. S, as found in CONTEMPORARY CAPPED BUST HALF DOLLARS Second Edition by Keith Davignon. Keith list only one piece known. German silver. Reeded edge. VERY SCARCE >>


    Mozin, as per the most recent CCCBHCC Census of known die marriages there were 3 of these pieces listed (if it is a 17-S, I don't have my reference in front of me) and that quantity of reported examples is tied for the 2nd most "common" die marriage from 1830; although I'm sure that census does not include all/the majority of known examples of this die marriage or the other die marriages from 1830.
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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm pretty sure it's an O-114 small o.
    Looks TOTALLY real to me, late die state AU.
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    scoobydeuxscoobydeux Posts: 498 ✭✭
    Absolutely a contemporary counterfeit. Look at the date...the Mint never mad one with this comical look.

    Nice pick up, especially for $20!!

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    lavalava Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭
    Anyone trying to spend that probably got arrested, and it has probably brought bad luck ever since.
    I brake for ear bars.
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    LewyLewy Posts: 594
    Mozin is spot on....... anyone who thinks that there is even the slightest possibility that this coin is authentic, really should not be dabbling in CBH.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,823 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm no half dollar expert, but it looks like a modern fake. >>




    that goes for me as well
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you even for a moment thought that piece was genuine you need to step back, put your wallet away and not spend another cent until you get a better eye for authenticity.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    LVGTLVGT Posts: 503
    He has probably already doubled his money or more.

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