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Why do raw cards on Ebay sell for more than their graded counterparts???
bobbyw8469
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I saw this listing on Ebay....described as "perfect centering"....
The card looks like a PSA 7 (MC)....anymore to the top and Al Kalines name will really be cut in half!!
Anyway, I was just making an observation in that raw cards seem to bring higher than their graded counterparts. Seems like a great business model would be to cut out high grade cards with qualifiers, or really great looking mid grade cards and sell them raw.....those sellers seem to be making a killing!
The card looks like a PSA 7 (MC)....anymore to the top and Al Kalines name will really be cut in half!!
Anyway, I was just making an observation in that raw cards seem to bring higher than their graded counterparts. Seems like a great business model would be to cut out high grade cards with qualifiers, or really great looking mid grade cards and sell them raw.....those sellers seem to be making a killing!
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A few sellers justify cracking out cards by saying "grading is just an opinion"
Some truth to that / some dishonesty.
<< <i>They look like "mint" cards heybertaz would be selling. >>
His arent as nice looking as those, but hey, he will offer a full refund if you arent happy!
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Ralph
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
That being said, yes it was mentioned about buyers thinking it could get a high grade, and also I think sometimes it's just shill bids and nobody really buys the card.
I forget the dealer, but one dealer on ebay is "famous" for cracking beautiful say PSA 5 cards with a wrinkle, and selling them raw, and the buyers think from the scan it could receive say a 7 or higher. Of course the dealer makes no mention that the card was cracked from a PSA 5 holder.
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looking for low grade t205's psa 1-2
<< <i>Yes!!!!!!!! I don't get out much!!!!! I knew Great Lakes Auction house did that, but I really haven't heard anything from them lately!! I was noticing some wares that this new seller is hawking, and his feedback is perfect!!! The cards, not so much, but the buyers are raving about them!! It sure looks like getting raw cards professionally graded and selling them that way appear to be a much harder money making proposition, than buying the cards already highly graded and cracking them out! >>
I didn't read this post when I posted - so you already knew about this.
but that Kaline is also VERY short too
<< <i>There are far more collectors that buy raw cards than there are those that buy graded... >>
Absolutely true. Nowhere is this more obvious than in the sale of high numbers, where NM raw cards will often outperform PSA 8's/SGC 88's.
To some, grading is a matter of investing in their investment. As for me, its only an option to protect and preserve rare and hard to find samples in my collection.
Personally, PSA does not know enough about my hobby to entrust them with my collection. (mislabeled PSA tags, wrong size holders and just plain lack of knowledge) I have to turn to other grading companies that listen and learn and are willing to work with me in furthering my interests.
I hope to have a company on board before the end of the year that will partner to publish my master lists of soccer rookies and super star master set lists.
<< <i>I am sure you are being faceious Steve. There comes a certain price point/grade level, where breaking the cards out don't make much sense. >>
No knowledgeable collector should pay more on ebay for a vintage raw NM looking card, than a vintage PSA 8 card, unless they are a glutton for punishment...and especially from a dealer. Yea, once in a blue moon ya might buy a raw NM looking card on ebay from some "babe in the woods" seller, and it receives a PSA 9, but overall it's fool's folly. Having a card in hand though is a different story when ya fully understand PSA grading.
Perhaps with modern crap cards it doesn't matter, or perhaps nobody wants most modern crap PSA 8 cards - I don't keep track of those cards.
<< <i>There may be a few instances where you may see a raw selling for more than a graded card.Reasons being the person wants a nice crisp raw set which they can actually look at and admire it from a binder. >>
well said....i'm learning more each day about the importance of actually viewing a card and a consistently nice & presentable set with cards that look at least near mint can sometimes create a greater positive impression than a heavy box full of off-centered PSA 8's.