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Think this 1888-O Morgan in an OGH MS65 might upgrade?

UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    It is of my opinion that it's good where its at. Maybe a 65+ (still getting used to the plus sign image)
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMHO it's not a PQ coin that looks 65.5 plus-able and is better off just left in the OGH.
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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    No.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    It is a nice coin, but I would leave in the green label holder.

    It is questionable if it would plus and it will definitely not go

    MS-66.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    No, I don't think so.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

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    Looks like a 64 to me
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    No, I don't think it will.
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    chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    she looks fine rite where she is
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What they alll said.
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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No upgrade.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe Cee-Ehhh-Cee-able?

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aaaaah, that's one of those that is lucky to be graded 65. With the minor hits on the cheek and
    all the neck scruffs, I'd say it's a 64. So, in my humble opinion, for whatever it's worth, no it will not upgrade.

    bobimage
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok as a 65 with no upgrade shot. Don't think it would get a sticker either.

    Out of 10 submissions this would probably come back 64 at least once.

    roadrunner
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A 65 IMHO, with all the chatter on the cheek, can't see it as a 66.
    The reverse is very nice, especially the breast feathers.
    Looks like a SF mint piece.
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Aaaaah, that's one of those that is lucky to be graded 65. With the minor hits on the cheek and
    all the neck scruffs, I'd say it's a 64. So, in my humble opinion, for whatever it's worth, no it will not upgrade.

    bobimage >>



    I think in 1986 it would have been a Pc 64.
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    Nope. 65 is max I think - this coin would have to do something incredible in hand to get a + out of me. I just don't see it. 66 never.

    Best wishes,
    Eric
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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65 and that is about it from what I can see.

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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    That coin is lucky to be in a 5 slab, most days of the week it'd go 4. So, no.
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    TinyTiny Posts: 2,598

    It is what It is
    Nope
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    No chance at upgrade I am afraid image
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    first thought was no
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty coin,but no.

    I do think the 88-O in 63-up is a lot scarcer than the current values imply... I just don't see them as often.
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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like a 64 to me >>



    Agreed.

    Judging from the 'spread' between 4 & 5, I wouldn't advise removing that one from the slab under any circumstances.

    Unslabbed, it's a $35 to $40 coin, IMO. >>



    I'll take all you have in that date/mm that look like that for $35.
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Maxed out. Dog.

    How much?image
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,310 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok as a 65 with no upgrade shot.
    Don't think it would get a sticker either.
    Out of 10 submissions this would probably come back 64 at least once.
    roadrunner >>



    I could not say it any better.



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    NotSureNotSure Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭
    What everyone else said.
    I'll come up with something.
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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    NewRoseNewRose Posts: 309 ✭✭
    It has a better shot at downgrading than upgrading.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those commenting that it looks like a 64 are nuts and need to examine a lot more 64s. Either that or get their eyes examined.
    That baby is a PQ 65 all day long.
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those commenting that it looks like a 64 are nuts and need to examine a lot more 64s. Either that or get their eyes examined.
    That baby is a PQ 65 all day long. >>


    I wish the lighting were better on the photos, but I tend to think that it's a solid 65, but no higher...
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    RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077
    I've seen 66s that looked similar and always thought they were overgraded.

    It looks like a nice 65 to me.
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    deviousdevious Posts: 1,690


    << <i>Those commenting that it looks like a 64 are nuts and need to examine a lot more 64s. Either that or get their eyes examined.
    That baby is a PQ 65 all day long. >>



    So are you saying it's 65+? Cause you will make me feel better if you say yes. image Okay, it really doesn't matter. But I really DOUBT this coin would come back a 64 if submitted ten times. I'd bet some money on that. And if that were so, there sure would be an awful lot of graded 65s really 64s on the market.
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    << <i>Those commenting that it looks like a 64 are nuts and need to examine a lot more 64s. Either that or get their eyes examined.
    That baby is a PQ 65 all day long. >>

    64 tops!
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    She's not MS66, and I wouldn't even grade it MS65+. I would say it is acceptable as MS65.
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    al410al410 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭
    I would doubt 66 but it is a really nice looking Morgan Dollar, these huge pictures some times are a little misleading compared seeing a coin in hand.
    AL
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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No upgrade
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If they look like this one, yes please.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So are you saying it's 65+? Cause you will make me feel better if you say yes. Okay, it really doesn't matter. But I really DOUBT this coin would come back a 64 if submitted ten times. I'd bet some money on that. And if that were so, there sure would be an awful lot of graded 65s really 64s on the market.

    It's pretty unusual for ANY coin to come back the same grade 10X in a row....unless you feel this coin would only come back 65-66 if submitted 10X. The only way for this coin to NOT
    come back a 64 at least once in 10X is for it to be a very strong 65 (ie a 65+). The TPG's have their tough days and their easy days. It's unusual not to get a tough day at least once
    in every 10X out. I'd love it if coins would usually come back the same grade 10X in a row. It would mean the grading problem was really solved.

    roadrunner
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    UtahCoin,
    I agree. Looks good at 65.
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    not unless you play the game of crack and resubmit after a good ol bath in smoe acetone..

    but then it will still be a 65
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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your photos are so big, they'd probably make a 66+ look baggy image

    My thought was that it looked fine as a 65, but the carbon spot on the reverse and the light contact marks on the obverse hold it from being a higher grade.
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    Looks like an average 65 to me
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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am with the solid 65 crowd
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