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scmavl · June 20, 2011 11:25PM

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KbKards · June 21, 2011 12:46AM

If you don't know what you're doing and buying the card(raw or graded) from a non-trustworthy source then it's more important you're doing OK with authenticity. The greater the deal you're getting in price the better chance of getting stung with a Craigslist type Mantle.

scmavl · June 21, 2011 12:52AM

The card is graded and I am comfortable with the seller. Just trying to cover my bases.

Thanks for the advice though.

captainthreeputt · June 21, 2011 1:12AM

Here is psa 3, I only went back as far as 2010 sales.
Latest Auction Price s for: PSA 3 - Average Price: $2,000.56
Listing Type: All Auction Buy It Now Best Offer Show: 2550100All Date Auction Link Seller Buyer Bids Price Extra
5/25/11 eBay Listing | Image cardguy444 f***8 BIN $2,250.00
4/29/11 eBay Auction | Image jimbomoko e***e 1 $1,999.99
4/2/11 eBay Auction | Image topcardsonline 3***3 20 $2,202.79
1/13/11 eBay Listing | Image ushcollector 0***0 Best Offer $1,800.00
9/14/10 eBay Image chiefgary45 o***d 2 $1,750.00
7/4/10 eBay Image cardguy444 n***c BIN $2,799.99
6/23/10 eBay Image painthistorian y***h 23 $1,581.56

captainthreeputt · June 21, 2011 1:14AM

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 3.5 - Average Price: $2,962.50
Listing Type: All Auction Buy It Now Best Offer Show: 2550100All Date Auction Link Seller Buyer Bids Price Extra
5/28/10 Legendary Image 22 $2,962.50
1/16/09 eBay Image darksoothsayer k***7 18 $2,200.00
9/21/08 eBay Image decoyspread mmboys61 10 $1,778.

captainthreeputt · June 21, 2011 1:14AM

Player:Mickey Mantle
Name on Card:Mickey Mantle
Variation:
Card Number:253
Category:Baseball
Year:1951
Set Name:1951 Bowman
Card Size:2-1/16 x 3-1/8
Number of cards in set:324
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 4 - Average Price: $2,331.38
Listing Type: All Auction Buy It Now Best Offer Show: 2550100All Date Auction Link Seller Buyer Bids Price Extra
4/22/11 eBay Auction | Image soldbybill123 r***h 17 $2,600.00
2/27/11 eBay Auction | Image collectivilleauction u***t 21 $2,281.56
1/27/11 Huggins & Scott Auction | Image 11 $3,525.00
12/27/10 eBay Auction | Image dnadomue e***r 13 $2,158.33
12/13/10 eBay Image zorbaca o***o 29 $2,475.01
11/29/10 eBay Image dnadomue c***i 10 $2,000.00
11/12/10 eBay Image uriahzimmerman23 b***r 22 $2,136.11
10/16/10 eBay Image kencope desomma1 Best Offer $2,500.00
10/6/10 eBay Image philipl212 e***n 4 $1,950.00
8/2/10 eBay Image catherined19 sgritzuk Best Offer $2,500.00
6/11/10 SCP Auctions Image 7 $1,932.00
6/8/10 eBay Image prewarcardcollector j***e 20 $2,175.00
6/4/10 eBay Image catonglue b***h BIN $2,600.00
4/14/10 eBay Image prewarcardcollector n***s 60 $3,151.00
3/23/10 eBay Image b-e-collectibles g***g 37 $2,425.33
2/28/10 eBay Image devo11 w***w 8 $2,300.00

bobbyw8469 · June 21, 2011 2:16AM

I agree....this card is very popular amongst the "Craigslist Gang".......due to your homework, lest you get stuck with what you BELIEVE to be an authentic PSA graded card!!!!

storm888 · June 21, 2011 2:46AM

There is almost a 100% chance that ANY such cards listed on
Craig's List are fake. The criminals use both real and counterfeit
slabs; they look "right" in scans, but "wrong" inhand to an
experienced PSA enthusiast. (The scammers have even had
a lot of success in face-to-face transactions. The scam relies
on the greed of the victims.)

The past posts on this board can be searched for full details.

The Gonzalez gang is operating their scam via numerous
CL listings. All roads lead back to an address in a San Diego
trailer park; a hop, a skip and a jump from the border, where
Big Mama is still calling the shots.

Their fave cards are Mantle, Aaron and Ruth, but they have
many others as well.

The card pool is also polluted by the fakes. Numerous honest
victims have attempted to resell the bogus cards.

The FBI has LONG been informed about the criminals, but that
agency is busy with other things.

dioworld · June 21, 2011 4:36AM

He's trying to buy this mantle from me, I just got reholder this card from SGC, you can call michael goldberg at SGC to confirm this, I just spoke to him two weeks ago.
I do not scam people, I have made a few transaction on this board, I've sold two jordan rookies to a guy on this board, 2 x j. robinson rookie, a collection of cards, i bought a few high value cards from this board as well
I always provide a large detail scan, pictures of every single card i sell on this board. Buyer can do a throughout review of the card before they make a purchase
These are the only cards i have left

Please don't make judgement on people before calling me a scam.

bobbyw8469 · June 21, 2011 5:12AM

I don't believe anyone here called you a scam. We just made a general warning to be wary of CL's fakes. We never saw the card he was interested in until now. Good looking Mantle.

scmavl · June 21, 2011 5:50AM

No, as I had said in my original post, I trust the seller as he provided references and the card was graded. I just wanted to check VCP averages in case I wanted to cross over to PSA.

Not sure who mentioned Craigslist or scams, as it was not me. I think the sellers price is very fair and I am purchasing the card.

zep33 · June 21, 2011 5:58AM

kinda hard to tell who called who what or what the hell you were even talking about when you delete your own post and change the title to delete.

just sayin...

scmavl · June 21, 2011 6:05AM

Yeah, point taken. I had just asked for VCP averages and edited it to say it was NOT a raw or craigslist purchase when people asked. When I got the VCP prices, I deleted as I assumed there would be no more discussion.

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