Just another nightmare Paypal story.............

2manycoins2fewfunds · June 17, 2011 1:29PM

Sold 50 of the 2010-s proof cents still individually packed in US Mint packaging at buyers request.

7 day return period is now 4 weeks ago.

Buyer leaves A+ glowing feedback on Ebay.

Now I get paypal request for 1/2 money saying coins not satisfactory.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention..............he has removed coins from US Mint packaging, put them into 2x2 flips and wants to return 25 or so he doesn't like...............

He threw away original U,S. Mint packaging.

llafoe · June 17, 2011 1:32PM

<< He threw away packaging. >>

Were you hoping to put the 25 back into the original packaging?

I hope PayPal doesn't side with the buyer... Good Luck!

Bochiman · June 17, 2011 1:35PM

Proof - individually packed - still in US Mint packaging

Mint set, I could see, but aren't the proofs part of the larger hard plastic which houses the other coins (dime/nickel/etc)?
You sold 50 of those? That is some packaging and boxing....

coindeuce · June 17, 2011 1:52PM

I believe the OP meant to indicate he sold 50 Proof sets.

mrpotatoheadd · June 17, 2011 2:31PM

<< Buyer leaves A+ glowing feedback on Ebay. >>

Can't help you with the rest, but in every issue I've had to deal with PayPal on, they couldn't care less what the feedback left on eBay was.

2manycoins2fewfunds · June 18, 2011 1:19AM

<< Proof - individually packed - still in US Mint packaging

Mint set, I could see, but aren't the proofs part of the larger hard plastic which houses the other coins (dime/nickel/etc)?
You sold 50 of those? That is some packaging and boxing.... >>

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Actually these were from the silver mint sets where the proof cents were part of the set.

At his specific request I sent him 50 proof cent coins each still in original mint plastic holder (half-dime-nickel-sac removed)

He popped them out of packaging, threw away mint packaging, put them in 2x2s, left positive feedback, and now wants to cherry pick best and return rest in his 2x2s.

Asking Paypal for 1/2 his money back. All 4 weeks later...................

questor54 · June 18, 2011 1:22AM

Sounds as if the buyer may be a bit eccentric. How much money is involved here?

ianrussell · June 18, 2011 1:53AM

Perhaps he tried to grade and some didn't grade so well?

- Ian

Bankerbob56 · June 18, 2011 1:56AM

<< Sounds as if the buyer may be a bit eccentric. How much money is involved here? >>

Does it really matter how much money is involved?!

If PP sides with the buyer on this one I might just close my PP in protest!

4 weeks later, out of seller's packaging, cherrypicked, and now wants 1/2 of his money back??!! You have got to be kidding!!!!

questor54 · June 18, 2011 2:06AM

<< 

<< Sounds as if the buyer may be a bit eccentric. How much money is involved here? >>

Does it really matter how much money is involved?!

If PP sides with the buyer on this one I might just close my PP in protest!

4 weeks later, out of seller's packaging, cherrypicked, and now wants 1/2 of his money back??!! You have got to be kidding!!!!

>>

It's on the same order as some things we have seen in the Forum.

I believe a couple of weeks ago a Forum member was upset because a dealer would not refund his (high) purchase price on a Tiffany medal he had purchased a YEAR ago, if I remember correctly. Compared to that, 4 weeks, and only a refund for half, sounds reasonable.

Paypal will miss you just about as much as they would miss me.

WinPitcher · June 18, 2011 2:11AM

Can you even request half of your money back through PP?

I thought that would have to be negotiated with the seller first.

Once the item is taken out of packaging it's a done deal IMO.

Take all your money out of your PP account and make sure your ebay account is not tied to it.

let PP refund this guy.

Best I can offer.

Bochiman · June 18, 2011 2:13AM

I am a pretty flexible/lenient seller, but for this one, I would be pushing to make sure paypal did not side with him.
Not only for the product, but to ship 50 proof set lenses like that, well, do they even fit 50 to a large flat rate or how did you ship them? Wasn't cheap, right?
I wouldn't even ask him for them back for a refund....they could be spotting if they were mishandled or stored improperly....even in just a few weeks

Russ · June 18, 2011 2:14AM

Call PayPal. Or eBay if this one was filed through them. If this buyer said all this stuff through the message system, you will win this claim. But, you need to call.

Russ, NCNE

johnny9434 · June 18, 2011 3:39AM

<< 

<< He threw away packaging. >>

Were you hoping to put the 25 back into the original packaging?

I hope PayPal doesn't side with the buyer... Good Luck! >>

paypuke better not side with buyer. its already getting tough for them as it is

2manycoins2fewfunds · June 18, 2011 4:50AM

It is not the money ...........$75

It is just the gall of the buyer and paypal's attitude that even with 6,700+ feedback including positive feedback from this guy that we can still be held hostage to some jerks whims.

Like I said.....just another Paypal nightmare.

Russ.....thanks for advice.....I'll call.

Oh, buy the way he says the problem is some of the proof coins he wants to send back have carbon flecks....as if I control that.

Buyer was calrolls1

Here was feedback...................

" fastest shipper on e-bay an asset to buyers & e-bay it self A+ 5 stars ***** :&gt

"

pf70collector · June 18, 2011 4:58AM

Good Luck. I think paypal will refuse his request to return the items.

mrearlygold · June 18, 2011 5:26AM

Wow that sucks. No surprise though. People looking for something for nothing seems to be an epidemic already.

Wolf359 · June 18, 2011 5:39AM

Can you out this guy so I can block him?

Thanks

WinPitcher · June 18, 2011 5:48AM

<< Buyer was calrolls1 >>

giorgio11 · June 18, 2011 5:59AM

<< 

<< Proof - individually packed - still in US Mint packaging

Mint set, I could see, but aren't the proofs part of the larger hard plastic which houses the other coins (dime/nickel/etc)?
You sold 50 of those? That is some packaging and boxing.... >>

..............................................................................................................

Actually these were from the silver mint sets where the proof cents were part of the set.

At his specific request I sent him 50 proof cent coins each still in original mint plastic holder (half-dime-nickel-sac removed)

He popped them out of packaging, threw away mint packaging, put them in 2x2s, left positive feedback, and now wants to cherry pick best and return rest in his 2x2s.

Asking Paypal for 1/2 his money back. All 4 weeks later................... >>

Tell him to pound sand ...

PerryHall · June 18, 2011 6:03AM

How can you even be sure he is sending you back the same coins that you sent him? It's not unheard of for a buyer to return a different and inferior coin for a refund.

2manycoins2fewfunds · June 18, 2011 8:18AM

<< How can you even be sure he is sending you back the same coins that you sent him? It's not unheard of for a buyer to return a different and inferior coin for a refund. >>

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Exactly........

I'd also have to assume he got them out of packaging and into individual 2x2s without damage. (no small feat)

I had 1000 of the mint sets and had already sold 15 rolls of proof cents with no problems or complaints.

Paypal's policy of letting these things go through weeks and months later leaves us all open to claims weeks and months later.

I can see some guy looking at a bunch of ASEs from 2006 and filing claims for milk spots years later.

Wolf359 · June 18, 2011 11:34AM

calrolls1, blocked.

Thanks!

Just another nightmare Paypal story.............

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