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1864 Small Motto in FULL BLAZING RED...Do they exist?
keyman64
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I checked Heritage for MS63 and higher RED examples that have sold. NONE OF THEM are what I call full red...they are all Red Brown in my eyes...unless I missed something. Tops the the devices are always Brown at minimum. I check the registry sets...I saw a 64RD listed but no pic. In 64RD there are 18 at PCGS with 21 higher...so there are some coins labeled as RED but I have not seen any that are REALLY FULL RED.
Can anyone post a pic of a full blazer RED 1864 Small Motto in MS63 or Higher? Heck, let's just open this up to ANY FULL RED BLAZER 2-Cent Piece in Mint State.
Please educate me a little on the series. Is it just this date or all dates? Thanks in advance for the education!
Can anyone post a pic of a full blazer RED 1864 Small Motto in MS63 or Higher? Heck, let's just open this up to ANY FULL RED BLAZER 2-Cent Piece in Mint State.
Please educate me a little on the series. Is it just this date or all dates? Thanks in advance for the education!
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Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
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-Paul
<< <i>How about a proof?
-Paul >>
Paul, that's nice but does not look FULL RED to me unless it is just the photo. The tops of the devices all look brown to me.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
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<< <i>How about a proof?
-Paul >>
Paul, that's nice but does not look FULL RED to me unless it is just the photo. The tops of the devices all look brown to me. >>
That's sometimes just a function of the photography.
So, if I were to ever buy a nice MS example then it would only make sense, to me at least, to purchase a very nice RB example rather waste a TON of cash on a RD coin that isn't red to begin with...it looks like I will be saving some cash in the future. The only people going after the coins LABELED RD should do so for the sake of a Registry Competition I guess....since the label means absolutely ZERO from what I can tell.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Here is a full red one (1865, not 1864) for you--Joe is a great guy and sells really PQ coins. He has sold many full red $.02, so if there is a full red 1864 out there, he will be able to find it.
http://www.kaminskicoin.com/copper.htm
<< <i>Here is a full red one (1865, not 1864) for you--Joe is a great guy and sells really PQ coins. He has sold many full red $.02, so if there is a full red 1864 out there, he will be able to find it.
http://www.kaminskicoin.com/copper.htm >>
Awesome, thanks! That is a great looking coin. So here is evidence that a Full Red 2-Cent Coin does exist! I knew someone would post something nice eventually....BUT I am still looking for a 1864 Small Motto in TRUE FULL RED. Awesome post DonDebbie!
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
1865 rd?
and a large motto for sale...
large motto
<< <i>how about this one?
1865 rd?
and a large motto for sale...
large motto >>
Both of those are probably about as close as they come. The Small Motto one has a lot of carbon spots but besides that was likely full red prior to going in a holder possibly....just a slight hint of the devices turning a bit tan.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
<< <i>So, if I were to ever buy a nice MS example then it would only make sense, to me at least, to purchase a very nice RB example rather waste a TON of cash on a RD coin... >>
I agree with this. I would recommend buying a nice RB coin.
I would be very cautious about buying copper designated as red unless it's in an older holder.
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<< <i>So, if I were to ever buy a nice MS example then it would only make sense, to me at least, to purchase a very nice RB example rather waste a TON of cash on a RD coin... >>
I agree with this. I would recommend buying a nice RB coin.
I would be very cautious about buying copper designated as red unless it's in an older holder. >>
That isn't enough to guarantee that there won't be problems. I have seen plenty of slabbed coppers, designated red, that look artificially colored.
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<< <i>
<< <i>So, if I were to ever buy a nice MS example then it would only make sense, to me at least, to purchase a very nice RB example rather waste a TON of cash on a RD coin... >>
I agree with this. I would recommend buying a nice RB coin.
I would be very cautious about buying copper designated as red unless it's in an older holder. >>
That isn't enough to guarantee that there won't be problems. I have seen plenty of slabbed coppers, designated red, that look artificially colored. >>
Not to mention were clearly RB - whether they turned brown in their holders is unknown, but 2c pieces are ESPECIALLLY notorious for being RB's and designated RD (NGC coins are more prevalent than PCGS coins in this instance, but both slabs are guilty to some degree).
On hold at J&H Coins
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
They do exist.