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Why the date a coin was slabbed isn't listed when you look up the Cert #? Seems like a nice and useful piece of information that is hidden for some reason.

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    TheBigBTheBigB Posts: 942
    image and would like to know myself.
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    krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Based on what I have heard, it's because the grading services do not feel it is relevant.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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    JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Because they don't want you to know the date of slabs comparing them to cert numbers. There were a couple oflong threads about this a long while back but I can't recall the details. Their was some disengenuous reason that people thought the TPG's did this but it really did not make sense to me from a business perspective.

    On the other hand I really don't see why it would matter, you either like the coin or not. I'm not sure how knowing the date of slabbing would be useful.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Based on what I have heard, it's because the grading services do not feel it is relevant. >>



    As long as the grading standards remain constant, I agree with the grading services. If their serial numbers are consectutively assigned they could post on their website the first and last number assigned for each year.

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    TheBigBTheBigB Posts: 942
    I think some of the concern relates to the stability of the surfaces, particularly for copper.
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    << <i>Based on what I have heard, it's because the grading services do not feel it is relevant. >>



    As long as the grading standards remain constant, I agree with the grading services. If their serial numbers are consectutively assigned they could post on their website the first and last number assigned for each year. >>



    But they are not. First four digits are pulled randomly every day and they go from there, or at least that's what I read on this forum. I think it's definitely relevant, especially in this age of toned coins and everybody being worried about their RD cents turning on them. With the minor differences in slabs since they moved to the blue holder in '98, it would really be nice to know if the RD '09-S VDB I'm about to drop $5k on was slabbed a month ago or a decade ago.
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    TheBigBTheBigB Posts: 942


    << <i>Based on what I have heard, it's because the grading services do not feel it is relevant. >>



    I think they are worried it would become relevant and effect liquidity of recent coins for some series.
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a prime example of WHY IT WOULD MATTER AND BE HELPFUL TO US AND THE TPG!!!

    You buy a coin that you think is nice for the grade, heck, maybe it even has a decorative sticker to go with it. I would like to know if this was graded BEFORE or AFTER + Grading went into place in March 2010(?)...if it was graded after that time frame and the value of the coin is high enough then I could safely guess that it had already been considered for the PLUS and I would not likely submit it again. BUT, if it was graded PRIOR to that time period, I might risk it and send the coin in for a regrade.

    If this is not a LEGIT example, I just don't know what would be...this could INCREASE business for the TPGs!!!!!!
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    RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608


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    << <i>Based on what I have heard, it's because the grading services do not feel it is relevant. >>



    I think they are worried it would become relevant and effect liquidity of recent coins for some series. >>



    Yep. Every major company has considered the idea, and every company has decided against it. All the grading company execs have thought the issue through, and looked at the positives and negatives. Listing the date would tend to create confusion and several more tiers of undesirable coins. Dealers would have yet another excuse to lower offers, or charge more. Collectors would become ever more confused as rumors float about loose grading periods or strict grading periods, and most of that would be just rumor, not based on any statistically relevant data. Coins certified during certain years, or even months might be considered superior or inferior to others based mostly on unsubstantiated Internet rumors spread by promoters with a large batch of coins that they themselves submitted. It is bad enough with the different versions of holders.

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