Mile High results.

RedHeart54 · May 20, 2011 11:43PM

There was, of course, some big money spent.

I guess I'm out of the loop when it comes to '69 Topps baseball but the price for this '69 PSA 9 Seaver really shocked me. I had no IDEA this card was worth that kind of money.

Other interesting items-

1979-80 O Pee Chee SCG 98 Gretzky rookie.

1968 Topps test "plaks" with Mantle.

1957 game worn Stan Musial uniform.

1976 Topps baseball vending case

And per my earlier post about BGS being busy with OPC hockey, a hoard of '70s and '80s OPC sheets.

GoDodgersFan · May 20, 2011 11:53PM

Wow. That Seaver price is insane. Someone really wanted that card !! Awesome news for the seller.

theczar · May 20, 2011 11:54PM

That Seaver card sure seems high to me.

I wonder what the winner will do on the vending case. That is 600 a box which also seems high. I know there is a premium for the security of knowing that they are in a sealed case, but as sure as you open the case there goes the premium.

thedutymon · May 20, 2011 11:57PM

Morning,

Well I didn't win anything, a little pissed as well, I guess with myself, I bid on 27 lots and was the underbidder on 17 of them. I guess I am just a littel too cheap......Almost...But No Cigar!!!

YeeHah

Neil

itzagoner · May 21, 2011 12:29AM

hmmmmmmmm...........almost 7 grand for that Seaver, huh? i believe i suggested to another 69er here recently that the card was undervalued, perhaps not quite so much after that auction......now i'm even more in love with my PSA 8.

edit to add speculation: the card is either undersized T/B or trimmed.....break out the pitchforks.

captainthreeputt · May 21, 2011 1:05AM

I tried to get the 1935 Chicle set but it went for an outrageous amount. I picked up a few lots:

1954 Bowman Mantle PSA 5
1953 Stahl Meyer Mantle SGC 10
1935 Chicle Rentner PSA 7
1951 Parkhurst Howe PSA 3
Complete box of 1965 Donruss Disneyland cards, all 24 pack GAI graded.

Brian

Dboneesq · May 21, 2011 2:02AM

That SEAVER is a nice card (and I do collect Seaver), but I would almost think that it was a mistake! In the past 3.5 years the highest listed on VCP is $1,095.10 from a Mile High auction in Feb 2008. In addition, only one other time did the card break the ONE GRAND mark. Am I missing something here?

itzagoner · May 21, 2011 2:21AM

throw out the price info Doug. embrace the gold standard. the very nicest example of that card in PSA 9 will go for 10 to 20k if it ever hits the market. maybe more.

grote15 · May 21, 2011 3:34AM

I won the lot of three 70s cellos, which including a GAI 9 1973 Rose cello and a 75 mini cello with Aaron on top.

divecchia · May 21, 2011 4:18AM

Congrats to the winners. That Seaver got a great price, not sure it should have gone for that much, but it did.

I came away with nothing again...

Donato

Stone193 · May 21, 2011 5:35AM

On the Seaver? Wow!!!!

Congratulations to the winners.

Sportsamerica · May 21, 2011 6:06AM

I only got one item.. Some of the 1952 Bowman Small went crazy..

Hogan
Cook
Stydar

Was the under bidder on some others..

MithrilMan · May 21, 2011 7:23AM

I bought a '72 Topps baseball set and 3 1954 Topps PSA 9 commons.

fiveniner · May 21, 2011 8:04AM

All I can say is someone out there has some deep pockets.Holy Moly!!!!Nice card though.

Probstein123 · May 21, 2011 12:09PM

I won the 1979 gretzky rc sgc 98 10 rough cut....
I bought 150 of these in the 1982 for $8.00 each....
I paid a little more this time...
==>

Ahmanfan · May 22, 2011 3:55AM

Rick, did you really?

Griffins · May 22, 2011 6:33AM

some of these prices are simply unbelievable.

Probstein123 · May 22, 2011 9:31AM

yes, I bought the gretzky !! hey, its only 63K...

mcadams · May 22, 2011 9:48AM

I bid on 5 items and got nothing. Watched a '69 Bobby Cox in PSA 9 pass $300 and saw a '48 Leaf Spahn in PSA 8 go over $2k. Also saw a '91 Desert Shield Chipper SGC 98 pass $1,000. All 3 seemed well outside the norm. Maybe the card market is hot again or maybe I just ended up singling out the wrong items to bid on.

I find it extremely hard to find value in any of these auctions. What I frequently find are the cards of my dreams, perfectly centered, going for 2x-3x what I expect them to sell for.

kingbeeswax · May 22, 2011 9:51AM

I won 14 auctions. Mostly Mantle items. Nothing crazy.

mcadams · May 22, 2011 10:22AM

<< yes, I bought the gretzky !! hey, its only 63K... >>

Congrats...

alnavman · May 22, 2011 10:38AM

I won a non sport item, which I was surprised was so cheap...the 1980 Creature Feature lot with two wax boxes and 24 GAI graded packs...got the two boxes and the packs for less than I've seen one box advertised for on ebay and slightly more than what I saw a single box sell for recently. Not everyone's cup of tea but I'm putting the set and sticker set together graded and these will help..... al.

Dpeck100 · May 22, 2011 10:42AM

Check out the recent closing levels on an 89 Bowman Tiffany Griffey PSA 8 and 84 Fleer Update Kirby Puckett PSA 9.

There are certain card prices that are going up. The bear market has ended in many cards.

There may not be some wild bull market but semi rare cards are moving up in price.

dzolot · May 22, 2011 11:38AM

I bid on a few items, but didn't win any. I compared some prices to recent eBay sales (from reputable sellers) and MHCC seemed high! For example, the 1960 partial set (lot #1490) sold for $4.00 a card and recent eBay sales are closer to $1.00 - $2.00 in comparable grade...

hockeycrazy · May 22, 2011 12:02PM

Congrats on the Gretzky. I thought the SCG was nicer than the PSA - just my opinion. Dave

Big80s · May 22, 2011 12:13PM

<< Congrats on the Gretzky. I thought the SCG was nicer than the PSA - just my opinion. Dave >>

Dave, I would have to second this opinion. Congrats to Rick on a stellar purchase.

Probstein123 · May 22, 2011 12:36PM

thank you for stating that you though the sgc is nicer...
to me, the rough cut is super important....
I thought the sgc was nicer that the psa in this case...
both are pop 1's...this card almost always has centering issues....
I thought the psa 10 went off low, should have been more like a $120K card...
I'm pretty happy with the 63K purchase....
I'll bring to the national so people can hold.....

Dpeck100 · May 22, 2011 12:38PM

I think it is really cool that a major player is posting on these boards.

Long term the Gretzky is going up. Your version is very strong.

That is a tremendous card and congratulations.

Probstein123 · May 22, 2011 12:45PM

I thought it was interesting that mile high didn't have the gretzky in its 2 page ad spread in the smr magazine ( take a look at the june issue )
any ideas why not ?
perhaps they received the card close to the auction ???

miconelegacy · May 22, 2011 1:36PM

Yes Rick congratulations!!!! That's an amazing example!

captainthreeputt · May 22, 2011 1:50PM

I think you made a great purchase. I definitely think you got a very good deal. It is a lot of money, but that is a beautiful rare card at that grade.

Enjoy,

Brian

mcadams · May 22, 2011 1:55PM

<< I thought it was interesting that mile high didn't have the gretzky in its 2 page ad spread in the smr magazine ( take a look at the june issue )
any ideas why not ?
perhaps they received the card close to the auction ??? >>

Valid question, but could have been lots of things. I wonder if the sellers of some of the high-end merchandise that was featured had negotiated the advertising as part of their agreement to allow MH to handle the sale.

TheCARDKid · May 22, 2011 5:23PM

Can sheets be rolled that tight, it seems like those boxes are kind of narrow.

Seems like a really strong auction, what happened to the "recession"? That 69 Seaver was amazing. And the OPC Gretzky rookie is incredible.

calaban7 · May 22, 2011 11:55PM

I picked up the 66 Topps Pepitone at a nice price. --- Sonny

markj111 · May 23, 2011 3:54AM

I went 0 for 3 in the auctions. Oh well.

handyman · May 23, 2011 5:48AM

Won a few PSA graded packs

RonBurgundy · May 23, 2011 8:45AM

Mile High had an auction?

PSASAP · May 23, 2011 9:45AM

There was a draft?

Tabe · May 24, 2011 7:33AM

I'm not knocking Rick for his purchase - I know how damn rare that card is in top condition - but, man, it just seems out of whack that a 1979/80 card could be almost twice as much as a game-worn uniform from Stan Musial. I know, demand and all that

Great purchase, Rick. Put me in the "SGC one was better than the PSA" camp as well.

Tabe

Probstein123 · May 24, 2011 10:32AM

stan wore many uniforms...
to date for the gretzky OPC RC : 1 psa 10 and 1 sgc 98 10

I've met over 50+ gretzky collectors in my years...
maybe only 2-3 musial collectors...( don't get me wrong musial was awesome - but perhaps if he had more cards in the 1950s people would collect him )

Dpeck100 · May 24, 2011 10:43AM

If an Albert Pujols card can sell for $8,000, then a Wayne Gretzky rookie in absolutely stunning condition is a steal at $63,000.

That card is an investment piece and will go much higher long term. If there were 10 cards graded Gem Mint then perhaps things would be different but this is the best of the best of a super tough issue and Wayne Gretzky will go down in history as one of the best if not the best hockey players.

I have never watched one hockey game and I would love to own a PSA 9 O-pee-chee rookie so that is why this card is so expensive.

Probstein123 · May 24, 2011 11:29AM

Wayne Gretzky will go down in history as one of the best if not the best hockey players.
==> Gretzky is almost 1000 points ahead of messier who is #2 all time...
or look at it this way: Greztky has 894 career goals, if he NEVER scored 1 goal, he'd still be the leagues all time leader !!!
ALL TIME NHL LEADERS

take the all time greats: Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Willie Mays, Jim Brown, Wayne Gretzky

I think you can argue Gretzky is greater than them all....Bryan Trottier is #15 on the all-time list and Greztky has MORE than double his career points...

Dpeck100 · May 24, 2011 11:36AM

The stats work for me.

He is the best hockey player ever!

mcadams · May 24, 2011 11:45AM

<< Wayne Gretzky will go down in history as one of the best if not the best hockey players.
==> Gretzky is almost 1000 points ahead of messier who is #2 all time...
or look at it this way: Greztky has 894 career goals, if he NEVER scored 1 goal, he'd still be the leagues all time leader !!!
ALL TIME NHL LEADERS

take the all time greats: Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Willie Mays, Jim Brown, Wayne Gretzky

I think you can argue Gretzky is greater than them all....Bryan Trottier is #15 on the all-time list and Greztky has MORE than double his career points... >>

Lets not get crazy here. I would place Gretzky (maybe) at the same level as Jordan, but certainly not higher. At the top of MJ's game, he had no peers. He was a man among boys, doing whatever he wanted too, whenever he wanted to do it. And that level of dominance continued in the NBA for a long, long time. He then carried that dominance onto the World Stage and led perhaps the most dominant team that the summer olympics have ever seen. Their level of dominance in their respective sport was similar, but I think Jordan's popularity was broader. Too bad OPC didn't put out a rough cut basketball set in 86.

CollectorAtWork · May 24, 2011 6:41PM

You guys gotta be kidding me if you think that either Gretzky or Jordan are bigger than Babe Ruth. Ruth introduced the power game to baseball, and he had more HRs than entire teams at some points. I'm not as familiar with hockey, but even Jordan didn't have that big of an impact on basketball. You can argue that Wilt had a greater impact on his sport since the free throw lane was widened just because of him. Frankly, I think the most telling aspect is that if you look at the major auction catalogues, I would guess that roughly 7 out of 10 have Ruth on the cover, and you never see Jordan or Gretzky there.

Probstein123 · May 25, 2011 4:51AM

hey ,
I did list Babe Ruth as the greatest baseball player of all-time...
However, did he play against Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Cool Papa Bell,
Judy Johnson, etc... ?? How many dingers would have Gibson hit ?
yes Ruth changed the game and he's MORE popular but...
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Gretzky is a mind boggling 1000 points ( basically ) ahead of #2 on the career scoring list...and he married Janet Jones !!

artistlost · May 25, 2011 5:45AM

Has anyone ever tried to cross the Gretzky? If not, are you game to try Rick?

Probstein123 · May 25, 2011 6:11AM

Has anyone ever tried to cross the Gretzky? If not, are you game to try Rick?
==> I've been thinking about that...
would I rather have a psa 10 pop 2 with no sgc 98 OR an sgc 98 10 pop 1 with a psa 10 pop 1 around ....
your thoughts ?

artistlost · May 25, 2011 6:24AM

I would try to cross. I know that PSA 70s and 80s hall of fame hockey rookies always do a lot better than SGC. That and I think yours is better than the current PSA 10.

Dpeck100 · May 25, 2011 9:30AM

The market knows there are two Gem Mint copies and your version has much better centering.

I don't think you can lose but it may bring down the value of the PSA version. With your card being better and basically a 1/3 cheaper you are safe.

By making the PSA version a Pop 2 it could certainly hurt it's appreciation potential longer term and I would be very concerned if I owned the PSA 10 of your's joining it.

I think you got a very good deal as that card is AWESOME!

With Wayne landing Janet Jones he gets some huge bonus points for sure!

mcadams · May 25, 2011 12:16PM

<< You guys gotta be kidding me if you think that either Gretzky or Jordan are bigger than Babe Ruth. Ruth introduced the power game to baseball, and he had more HRs than entire teams at some points. I'm not as familiar with hockey, but even Jordan didn't have that big of an impact on basketball. >>

Jordan had NO peers during his playing years. None. No one was close. Ruth on the other hand....Go look up the results of the '36 Hall of Fame ballot and you'll find your answer. You talk as if Ruth was miles ahead of everyone else. Yet there are great debates all the time about the greatest baseball player of all time- Many (Ruth's contemporaries included) would put Cobb ahead of Ruth. But with Jordan, there really isn't much of an argument to be made that he wasn't the greatest at his sport.

Rick- Sorry this is turning into major threaddrift. Your card deserves its own thread to bask in its glory.

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