VENDING BOX opinions..searched? or good (see post for results)

OAKESY25 · May 21, 2011 12:26AM

85 topps vending box..

hhmag70 · May 21, 2011 12:30AM

Looks correct.

corvette1340 · May 21, 2011 12:38AM

looks good.

ThoseBackPages · May 21, 2011 1:26AM

NIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!

i bet that SMELLS fantastic!

Dboneesq · May 21, 2011 1:50AM

Edited: NO WAY THAT BOX IS GOOD!!!! (This, AFTER the OAK man told us he searched it already! LOL)

OAKESY25 · May 21, 2011 2:32AM

Well, this will likely be my last vending box as I 100% don't trust them unless they are from a sealed case.

the picture shown was taken after I searched the box and returned the cards to the box.
I have opened several vending boxes and always noticed when I returned the cards to the box the pattern was always still there.

the box is from bbce and was taped shut.. when I opened it there were about 5-6 cards laying on top (not stars)
I figured.. ok maybe someone removed some to verify the year.
I am pretty sure the box was searched because the pattern, although visible (looking exactly like my picture)
wasn't as tight or crisp as other vending boxes I have ripped that I was certain were unsearched.
I pulled very few if any stars.. I did pull an o/c puckett with a corner ding. No Clemens, gooden or Mcgwire
even though there were several doubles of usa team cards.

bbce is good and this no bash on them.. the pattern was there.. this just proves even after being searched
multiple times the pattern is still there.

my opinion is this.. unless it was pulled from a fresh case from a source you know and trust.. it was likely searched

cpamike · May 21, 2011 2:44AM

Bob, I agree with you and have stopped purchasing vending boxes unless they are from a sealed case too.

I am a little late to the party, but there are two spots in that box which would have concerned me. The pattern should be consistent throughout.

I actually once bought a 1978 vending box that had 5 gum cards in it...LOL. Obviously, I returned it to the seller.

itzagoner · May 21, 2011 2:48AM

no Eric Davis?

OAKESY25 · May 21, 2011 2:52AM

no eric davis

packCollector · May 21, 2011 3:28AM

I recently opened an 82 case , every box that I pulled a ripken from , I pulled 2 ripkens. the sequencing was pretty predictable. so from the perspective of stars, there is no guarantee that a box has to have stars.

HeritageAddict · May 21, 2011 4:01AM

The true can also be said for rack packs because of the sequence. I ordered a 3-box rack case from bbcx 2-3 years ago, it had been opened and was apparently searched around the time of original release because while I did pull Clemens & McGwire cards I didn't pull a single Gooden card.

diamondman · May 21, 2011 4:05AM

Vending boxes are always a shot in the dark, beside the obvious reasons
1. has it been searched?
2. the condition of the cards.

but , having opened multiple vending cases from 1985 through 1993 to build sets.
24 boxes 500 cards per box 12,000 cards per case and 792 cards per set in a perfect world you should get 15 cards of each player or 15 sets per vending case. Topps vending cases are far from perfect. the most complete sets that I ever got out of 1 vending case was 13, and that only happened once,the worst was 8 complete sets. most of the time it averaged 10 to 12 complete sets. The point being that out of 24 boxes you are usually only going to get 10 - 18 of anyone player, I would say the odds of pulling the exact player you want are 1 out 3 boxes, because I never opened a vending box that had 500 different players there was always doubles and sometimes triples or more.

opening just 1 vending box of any year , 2 out 3 boxes are duds/losers and I have opened vending boxes straight from the case that had cards laying on top not to often but I have seen it happen.

I sold vending boxes out of my store for just 2 years (88 & 89), but quit because I grew tired of the complaints and accusations of searching. I would make 1 customer very happy with the vending box they bought , but for every happy customer there was an unhappy one also.

OAKSEY25 , was the vending box you bought searched maybe, maybe not. I have seen some really bad vending boxes straight from sealed cases. I bought a couple older vending boxes in 1990, 1977 & 1978 boxes the 77 box was a dud , the 78 box I did really well but it is always crap shoot on player selection and the condition of the cards (corners & centering). JMHO

OAKESY25 · May 21, 2011 4:52AM

just to let you know, Steve contacted me and stated the box was from a sealed case

here is the comment

I saw your post on the PSA boards. Just so you know, the box was from as
sealed case. Topps sealed them with a piece of scotch tape about 10% of the
time in 1984 and 1985. Topps laid those 5-6 cards across the top on the
ones they taped shut those years. So you did get a box from a sealed case.
In fact, you were lucky enough to get one that was sealed by Topps in the
only 2 years they sealed the boxes. Thanks for all your business! Steve

like I said.. bbce is good my issue was never with them
they are the best in the biz and I will continue to buy wax

Stone193 · May 21, 2011 5:32AM

Thanx for the post Bob.

Vending is an enigma to me.

cellos · May 21, 2011 6:36AM

I find it hard to trust vending boxes as well since they are easily searched. I bought a 1982 vending box from BBCE about 10 years ago on Ebay. I decided a few months ago that it was time for me to open it and check out what I had. In the middle of that box were 3 Ripken rookies in a row, literally with no other cards in between them!!! True story.

NickM · May 21, 2011 7:18AM

Rack packs can be searched by knowing the card sequences, without doing anything more to the packs than looking at the front and back. In 1987 Baseball Cards magazine even published the Topps cello and rack sequences for that year.

Nick

dmatc · May 22, 2011 4:57PM

I thought this thread might be a good place to share my recent experience buying
vending boxes from BBCE. Overall I was very pleased.

I am working on a few raw sets so a bought 3 1984 Topps, 3 1983 Topps, 3 1980 Topps
and 1 1985 Topps vending box from BBCE in March.

From the 3 1984 boxes I got 0 Mattingly rookies but since I had multiple copies of that card
already I didn't really care. I got a good assortment of other stars however.

From the 1985 box I pulled 2 McGwire rookies as well as a Puckett and Clemens. This box
was taped and had several cards on top of the others.

I pulled a Henderson rookie from each of the 3 1980 Topps vending boxes.

From the 1983 Topps vending boxes I pulled 4 Sandberg rookies, 3 Boggs rookies, and 2
Gwynn rookies. Although I am putting together raw sets one of Gwynn rookies is so nice
that I plan on having it graded (it is at least a 9).

Steve

edit for pic

twiley · May 23, 2011 3:21AM

<< 

We purchase a case of '79 vending from BBCX last year and pulled an Ozzie every 1.5 boxes.

So we ended up with at least 16 #116s.

>>

I am confused. How many of you are there?

corvette1340 · May 23, 2011 3:27AM

<< 

<< 

We purchase a case of '79 vending from BBCX last year and pulled an Ozzie every 1.5 boxes.

So we ended up with at least 16 #116s.

>>

I am confused. How many of you are there? >>

bubblebathgirl(s)

Treetop · May 23, 2011 3:55AM

<< 

<< 

We purchase a case of '79 vending from BBCX last year and pulled an Ozzie every 1.5 boxes.

So we ended up with at least 16 #116s.

>>

I am confused. How many of you are there? >>

one for each bubble...

ddfamf · May 23, 2011 4:15AM

I was wondering who "we" was also.....don't be ashamed of your schizophrenia. I'm not.....and neither am I.

Reljac · May 23, 2011 4:23AM

From bbg's ebay auction you can find out why they say 'we', 'us', and 'our'...

<< We are a collective of collectors who take pride and care in what we do. If you have any questions or comments about our items or service please feel free to contact us using the eBay contact link below. We will do our best to respond to you ASAP and provide custom solutions for your collecting ambitions. >>

ebay link

gemint · May 23, 2011 6:51AM

<< I was wondering who "we" was also.....don't be ashamed of your schizophrenia. I'm not.....and neither am I. >>

Dorskin Group?

flash2 · May 23, 2011 7:23AM

on a lighter note,topps does mess up.brought a 1978 topps hockey box from bbcx a while back.opened it,half hockey and half basketball(same pack).called steve and he said while it is unusual,he has seen it before.not to often you get kareem and bobby clarke in the same pack.it was opening.

VENDING BOX opinions..searched? or good (see post for results)

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