Fake Morgan in Fake Slab on Australian eBay?

mnemtsas2 · April 28, 2011 8:16AM

I post over on the world forums and know nothing about US coins (I'm in Australia). I've seen the coin below relisted a couple of times and it seemed very odd that such a coin would be sold out of a small town in my home state. Any comments on it's authenticity?

Is this fake?

Zoins · April 28, 2011 8:21AM

Sold on Heritage for $40,250.00 back in 2008. $11k BIN on eBay now?

Here's the PCGS Cert Verification page and the Heritage page.

oldhobo · April 28, 2011 8:26AM

They're using the Heritage obverse photo.

MsMorrisine · April 28, 2011 8:30AM

the potential scam is to sell something you do not own, clean out the accounts, then close the accounts, and eBay/PayPal will have to eat the losses.

MsMorrisine · April 28, 2011 8:31AM

since I can't verify who owns the coin, I'm not reporting it.

however, the photo reuse and the price make me highly suspicious.

(plus I'm getting tired of reporting this stuff as an unpaid person, and eBay raising fees on my auctions)

kiyote · April 28, 2011 9:55AM

<< the potential scam is to sell something you do not own, clean out the accounts, then close the accounts, and eBay/PayPal will have to eat the losses. >>

You just gave me an idea!

AUandAG · April 28, 2011 11:01AM

Yes it is a fake....Here's another pic on my "fake PCGS" website

1889-cc fake

bob

edited: reported to ebay

Zoins · April 28, 2011 11:07AM

<< Yes it is a fake....Here's another pic on my "fake PCGS" website

1889-cc fake

bob

edited: reported to ebay >>

Thanks for the link to CoinForgeryEbay's Flickr Gallery. Glad someone is doing this!

AUandAG · April 28, 2011 11:17AM

<< 

<< Yes it is a fake....Here's another pic on my "fake PCGS" website

1889-cc fake

bob

edited: reported to ebay >>

Thanks for the link to CoinForgeryEbay's Flickr Gallery. Glad someone is doing this! >>

You are welcome, we should all bookmark this site.

bob

okracer · April 28, 2011 11:31AM

<< Yes it is a fake....Here's another pic on my "fake PCGS" website

1889-cc fake

bob

edited: reported to ebay >>

But the pic is not of a fake. It was taken straight off the Heritage site photo. (at least the obverse pic!)

okracer · April 28, 2011 12:08PM

I sent the seller this question:

"Dear ahow6235,

Hi...nice coin...Quick question: I saw that this is the exact coin sold at Heritage in 2008. And you are using their photo. But your pic of the reverse is of a different coin. How can I be sure you have the actual coin? Can you provide more pics of the obverse? As you would agree, a coin of this price, I would need a little more info, ie, provenance of the sale from Heritage and better pics would be very helpful. Thanks for any more advice or info!...."

He was quick with this reply:

"yes i used their photo for the front because my scanner stopped working after i scaned the reverse side (my coin) but the coin is identical. i have a new scanner now and would be happy to send pics via email?? if anything looks dodgy or out of place of the coin please let me know and i will get back to the person i brought it off. cheers for the advice anymore would be awesome thanks.
- ahow6235"

......you make your own conclusions......

ajaan · April 28, 2011 12:15PM

I got a very similar reply from the seller:

<< yes, the picture you see of the front of the coin is not mine but it is identical, the reason why i didnt put the picture of the front of my coin on there is because my scanner stopped working after i scanned the reverse side of the coin. i have a new scanner now and would be happy to email you pics. >>

okracer · April 28, 2011 1:03PM

He updated the ebay listing with his pic. Exact same serial # as Heritage's.

MsMorrisine · April 28, 2011 2:04PM

very fake label.

wrong font. as usual.

okracer · April 28, 2011 10:38PM

I sent him another message:

He now has changed his description, now stating:

"DO NOT BID OR BUY ITEM,

I HAVE FOUND IT TO BE A FAKE STUPID

F**************************##!! CHINESE SLAB!!!!!!!

!!DO NOT BID OR BUY!!"

...probably others here emailed him.....

BigRick · April 28, 2011 10:57PM

It's a dhgate.com job someone bought for about $300 & is trying to scam people with.

AUandAG · April 29, 2011 1:11AM

I was one of those that gave him a heads up with the link to the Flicker page.

He sent me two emails and was not a happy camper. Said he's been taken big time.

Hope he gets revenge!!

bob

his last message: Dear bobandlinda1,

thats not good at all, they got me good. thanks heaps for your help! very much appreciated.

- ahow6235

Fake Morgan in Fake Slab on Australian eBay?

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