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A grade is a measure of the appeal of a coin

MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
Factors that are usually considered when determining grade include
Luster
Strike
Wear
Eye Appeal
Color
Surface quality

The impact each factor has on the grade is subjective. How each factor is defined and applied to a particular coin is subjective.

In other words, it's all subjective.

With that in mind...Is an assigned grade actually a measure of the overall appeal of a coin?

If so, should the coin's rarity and/or popularity also be a factor to be considered when assigning a grade?

Do you think this is what is meant by market grading?

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  • Eye appeal and color should not be included. Too subjective. rarity should not be considered. If it is it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.Just grade the coins and stop the market grading nonsense!
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Eye appeal and color should not be included. Too subjective. rarity should not be considered. If it is it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.Just grade the coins and stop the market grading nonsense! >>



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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    << Eye appeal and color should not be included. Too subjective. rarity should not be considered. If it is it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.Just grade the coins and stop the market grading nonsense! >>


    Yep, I love them ugly gray coins...image
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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    Yes, eye appeal is a measure of the overall appeal of the coin. Doesn't matter if the coin is toned or not. Original blast white coins can have great eye appeal just as a rainbow toned example.
    "It is what it is."
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Yes, eye appeal is a measure of the overall appeal of the coin. Doesn't matter if the coin is toned or not. Original blast white coins can have great eye appeal just as a rainbow toned example. >>



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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Eye appeal ..... should not be included. >>



    that's just silly
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ive looked at every auction photo of every 3 cent feuchtwanger NY shield piece that has sold over the past 20 years or so, and while there are 64.s, 63s, 62s,.....the finest coin in my opinion (and Wayte Raymonds) is an MS61. (on my watch list big time).
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Ive looked at every auction photo of every 3 cent feuchtwanger NY shield piece that has sold over the past 20 years or so, and while there are 64.s, 63s, 62s,.....the finest coin in my opinion (and Wayte Raymonds) is an MS61. (on my watch list big time). >>



    So you're saying eye appeal wasn't a factor in the grade? ... or was the coin an AU net graded to MS for eye appeal?
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    most 63 and 64s have toning patterns, spots, coloration patches....the MS61 I speak of has the dead rock hardest strike on any specimen Ive ever seen. The capture of detail is magnificent. Centering is perfect, and the surface may not have that prooflike shine but it is evenly pristine slate grey. It is probably undergraded by todays standards . I want it!
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Eye appeal ..... should not be included. >>



    that's just silly >>




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  • Lehigh96Lehigh96 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Eye appeal ..... should not be included. >>



    that's just silly >>




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    Eye appeal is of paramount importance to me. >>



    +1 and I don't care if the coin is toned or untoned, but it must have eye appeal.
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Your eye appeal or the graders eye appeal?
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  • Lehigh96Lehigh96 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Your eye appeal or the graders eye appeal? >>



    Mine of course. That doesn't mean I can't both disagree with the grader's opinion of eye appeal and overall assigned grade. And if I do disagree, I usually don't buy the coin. But there really is nothing that an MS67 can do for an ugly coin.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't mind an "AU 62" grade. I think that would be more explicit for AU coins than are otherwise market graded as "MS 62."
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But there really is nothing that an MS67 can do for an ugly coin. >>

    But MS70 can help an ugly coin image

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