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Anyone have a VAM View price guide?

I'm wondering what an 1895-S VAM 1a Morgan in 45-50 cleaned might be worth?



Thanks guys!



-Paul

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭
    What you can't paypal $21.95 to the SSDC and get your own copy of the price guides? If your going to collect and sell VAMs, then you should support the hobby.

    I sold the last 1A, problem free, for minimal amount over greysheet. If yours is a problem coin, greysheet at most is what you can expect.
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What you can't paypal $21.95 to the SSDC and get your own copy of the price guides? If your going to collect and sell VAMs, then you should support the hobby.

    I sold the last 1A, problem free, for minimal amount over greysheet. If yours is a problem coin, greysheet at most is what you can expect. >>



    No need to be so hostile, I have the VAM View price history book, not the price guide, ok?


    Edited to add: I appreciate the info though, thanks.



    -Paul
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Anyone else?



    -Paul
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have one. I paid for a SSDC life membership to obtain it. I don't often use it though, because I price most VAMs on a modest profit margin over my cost basis. I don't try to squeeze potential customers for VAMs that are problematic (cleaned) or are not legitimately rare. If you have what you've determined is rare, then put it in an unreserved auction where it will get optimum exposure and let the market decide what it is worth.

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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have one. I paid for a SSDC life membership to obtain it. I don't often use it though, because I price most VAMs on a modest profit margin over my cost basis. I don't try to squeeze potential customers for VAMs that are problematic (cleaned) or are not legitimately rare. If you have what you've determined is rare, then put it in an unreserved auction where it will get optimum exposure and let the market decide what it is worth. >>



    Well, according to VAM World, there's only ten of them, so I'd say that's pretty rare. This one appears to be cleaned, but it looks to possibly be AU. The current highest graded one is a 45.



    -Paul
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I have one. I paid for a SSDC life membership to obtain it. I don't often use it though, because I price most VAMs on a modest profit margin over my cost basis. I don't try to squeeze potential customers for VAMs that are problematic (cleaned) or are not legitimately rare. If you have what you've determined is rare, then put it in an unreserved auction where it will get optimum exposure and let the market decide what it is worth. >>



    Well, according to VAM World, there's only ten of them, so I'd say that's pretty rare. This one appears to be cleaned, but it looks to possibly be AU. The current highest graded one is a 45.



    -Paul >>



    Where are you getting a pop report from? They are not on a list so I doubt any keeps pop reports. I would say no premium on a coin like this. Partially becuase 95-S's can be pricey enough where any potential VAM premium evaporates.
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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I have one. I paid for a SSDC life membership to obtain it. I don't often use it though, because I price most VAMs on a modest profit margin over my cost basis. I don't try to squeeze potential customers for VAMs that are problematic (cleaned) or are not legitimately rare. If you have what you've determined is rare, then put it in an unreserved auction where it will get optimum exposure and let the market decide what it is worth. >>



    Well, according to VAM World, there's only ten of them, so I'd say that's pretty rare. This one appears to be cleaned, but it looks to possibly be AU. The current highest graded one is a 45.



    -Paul >>



    Where are you getting a pop report from? They are not on a list so I doubt any keeps pop reports. I would say no premium on a coin like this. Partially becuase 95-S's can be pricey enough where any potential VAM premium evaporates. >>




    From VAM World. It's the VAM of the Week.


    -Paul
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Todd: There have only been 10 VAM 1A examples found so far; the OP's coin would be #11. VAM 1A is very, very scarce.

    Paul: Guesstimating a value for a cleaned AU VAM 1A starts with deciding what a cleaned AU 1895-S is worth... and I wish you the very best of luck with that can of worms. Personally, I don't think cleaned coins are worth even half of their problem-free counterparts, but I know others have different opinions. Then you get to decide/guess what if any VAM premium there is. Since only ANACS and SEGS will attribute a VAM 1A on the holder, and the only Registry that has a slot for it is over at SSDC, demand for the coin is low and an argument can be made that any premium basically amounts to just curiosity value... which means you can pick your own number. $25? $100? $0?

    I bought Jack's previously mentioned F15 PCGS VAM 1A off of eBay last month. I consider the total price I paid to reflect about a $50 premium for the VAM. I was willing to pay it because I was co-discoverer of VAM 1A.

    By the way, a SEGS XF40 cleaned VAM 1A sold on eBay in November for $495. That's 46% of current Greysheet bid problem-free XF generic price. If there was a premium in there for the VAM, it's pretty hard to see.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>From VAM World. It's the VAM of the Week. >>


    VAM of the Week is not meant to be a gauge of value or rarity. VAMWorld members rotate posting a coin about which they can say something interesting, whether it's rare or not. Many times, it's one of the "off the radar" coins that for whatever reason made the poster say "cool" at some time.

    Regarding rarity, there are many VAMs for which there are fewer than 5 known that sell for no premium. This is because demand for the very thinly traded coins is more a function of collector idiosyncrasies than it is the known population. If only three people decide they want some obscure VAM, 5 known is more than enough to satisfy their demand. The 1895-S VAM 1A, while rare, has the burden of being a higher priced coin even before you decide which VAM it is. People looking for 95-S VAMs will start with the VAM 3 and 4, and then maybe later decide they want the other few, but as it is a lower priority for most and a higher value base coin, the premium percentage will be quite low. Until the demand for a complete 1895-S VAM set is sufficiently high, any premiums for the VAM 1A, even though rare, will be modest and reserved for the problem free specimens.
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the education, guys!



    -Paul

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