Coin Rarity

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 2:12AM

On the coin rairity scale what does RARITY 4 mean ? For that matter does anyone know what all the rarity numbers mean ?

JCMhouston · April 8, 2011 2:25AM

Actually it really depends on whose scale you are using. On what is called the URS I don't think an R4 is very rare at all, on the ESC (English Silver Coins) scale it means only a very small handful known, I don't have my book with me but it seems like ESC would use R4 for maybe a dozen or less.

Pistareen · April 8, 2011 2:27AM

On the Sheldon scale, which is the one used in 90% of settings in the US, R-4 means 76-200 known or "very scarce."

On a lot of the pieces I work with (early copper, varieties, etc.), Rarity-4 means "scarcer than common but not scarce enough to bring a substantial premium."

The Sheldon Scale

R-1 Common
R-2 Not So Common
R-3 Scarce
R-4 Very Scarce (population est at 76-200)
R-5 Rare (31-75)
R-6 Very Rare (13-30)
R-7 Extremely rare (4-12)
R-8 Unique or Nearly So (1,2 or 3)

Quarternut · April 8, 2011 2:39AM

The rarity rating scale was first introduced to quantify rarity versus price for only the US Large Cents. Eventually this scale was applied to all coins, albeit without the ratio of price. Below is an expanded listing of rarity and each levels meaning.

As you can see. Rarity-4 means that there are approximately 80 to 200 coins believed to exist.

Hope this helps...

QN

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 2:54AM

What I am refering to is an 1854 octogonal california gold piece (1/2 dollar) bg 305 .... does this narrow down the scale or can it still be any of those scales ?

ctf_error_coins · April 8, 2011 2:58AM

Wow, I guess I have quite a few R-8 Coins

Quarternut · April 8, 2011 3:02AM

<< What I am refering to is an 1854 octogonal california gold piece (1/2 dollar) bg 305 .... does this narrow down the scale or can it still be any of those scales ? >>

The scale can be applied to any denomination, but I am unsure about the one you listed, as I know almost nothing about that series.

QN

johnny9434 · April 8, 2011 3:38AM

<< The rarity rating scale was first introduced to quantify rarity versus price for only the US Large Cents. Eventually this scale was applied to all coins, albeit without the ratio of price. Below is an expanded listing of rarity and each levels meaning.

As you can see. Rarity-4 means that there are approximately 80 to 200 coins believed to exist.

Hope this helps...

QN >>

this is nice to have up on the all

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 4:37AM

<< What I am refering to is an 1854 octogonal california gold piece (1/2 dollar) bg 305 .... does this narrow down the scale or can it still be any of those scales ? >>

Can someone give me the total graded by Pcgs ? I don't have a credit card to join the population report and this will probably be the only time I need it anyway.
Thanks

llafoe · April 8, 2011 4:56AM

You don't need a credit card... you can pay me via PayPal

Total: 105

MS66: 1
MS64: 7
MS63: 35
MS62: 28
MS61: 8
MS60: 3

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 5:14AM

What about the other 23 ?

Thanks

llafoe · April 8, 2011 5:17AM

<< What about the other 23 ?

Thanks >>

The other 23 will cost you double!

AU58: 13
AU55: 6
AU53: 1
AU50: 2
AF45: 1

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 5:18AM

So that makes a total of 135 between PCGS and NGC ... then take a few crackouts .. I have been scoring some low numbered coins lately

LindeDad · April 8, 2011 5:35AM

<< So that makes a total of 135 between PCGS and NGC ... then take a few crackouts .. I have been scoring some low numbered coins lately

>>

The scale is not limited to only the graded coins.

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 6:03AM

They are probably all rare , those suckers look easy to loose .

lunytune2 · April 8, 2011 6:06AM

<< 

<< So that makes a total of 135 between PCGS and NGC ... then take a few crackouts .. I have been scoring some low numbered coins lately

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The scale is not limited to only the graded coins.

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Being an R4 I'm sure they are not too far off .

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