Thought I would give ebay a try selling after several years :(

TexasNationals · March 29, 2011 2:07PM

Should have listened, auction for some silver closes at 11 EST PM on Saturday, can't ship Sunday (below my cost anyways, send you have to ship for free just to keep your DSR's up, what a load), so I figure since I state 1 day handling I would take it on my lunch break (11 a.m.) and ship. So I get to the PO and my blackberry rings, email, from buyer. Sent Monday 9:46 a.m " Where is my freaking silver", WOW. Just ot for me guys and I will give you my ebay ID if you want to block me as I don't care anymore. NO NEGATIVES or NEUTRALS huh, so they can do whatever they like and hold you hostage in my book. So I leave positive, " Item bought and paid late Saturday, can't ship Sunday so no need for "Where the hell is my silver?" Monday early a.m. I am sure I will get negatived, disputed, bad DSR's, but I just don't care. Guy's if I buy a coin regardless of handling or shipping policy, I won't even bother the seller for 2 weeks. Not sure if it mattered, but I shipped USPS flat rate, delivery confirmation, put the silver in a padded envelope, plus tape, gas, time and no lunch (maybe why I am cranky) for $3.95.

Seems that you must follow these rules, 1 day handling, low or free shipping, delivery confirmationa and such or you get less bids, yet people act like this is a full time job for us. Ebay is Bull, period.

llafoe · March 29, 2011 2:19PM

eBay has it's pros and cons... you found a con.

JamesMurray · March 29, 2011 2:24PM

WoW , that's a far cry from the norm Texas , i've never heard of anyone expecting an item as quickly. I don't ship free and it might take me 24-48 hours to ship , my DSR'S are fine , discount in place etc .
It sounds like your buyer either called the wrong seller or was promised overnight express or was under that impression.Instead of posting your ebay id you should post the irate buyers id and save us all some grief further down the road.

TexasNationals · March 29, 2011 2:28PM

This reminds me of "hey guys, don't shoot back"

llafoe · March 29, 2011 2:31PM

<< This reminds me of "hey guys, don't shoot back" >>

If I'm in front of our military or another nation's military, those are my EXACT words!

CoinCoins · March 29, 2011 2:31PM

bah, he's just an ass.. ebay is loaded with them

i'm with you, i don't bother anyone unless too much time has gone by

morgandollar1878 · March 29, 2011 2:35PM

I love it how some people think that they are the most important person on the planet. I know how you feel, I have run into this type of person many times.

notwilight · March 29, 2011 2:35PM

Ebay has tilted the playing field in the direction of the buyer for years. They are finally starting to make some changes. For example, if you put 3 day handling in your auction, and ship by the 3rd day, I don't think the buyer can leave you anything but 5 stars for ship time. They can still ding you elsewhere and leave a negative. And you run across this type occasionally. I had one last month. --jerry

GaCoinGuy · March 29, 2011 9:03PM

Guy was just an assmunch.

Unfortunately, EBay is full of them these days, and EBay doesn't much seem to care about them than they do the crooked sellers.

SaorAlba · March 29, 2011 9:36PM

I gave up the selling ghost on fleaBay back in 2008. Just too much trouble, expense etc.

pontiacinf · March 29, 2011 11:34PM

I totally agree with you 10000000000000000000000%

and thats alot o f"in zeros

stevek · March 29, 2011 11:37PM

The "bull" isn't over yet. Wait until ya get the ebay invoice for their seller fees...ebay has raised that over the past several years, despite a bad recession, etc.

PerryHall · March 30, 2011 12:13AM

If this very impatient buyer negs you, please let us know who he is. I'm sure that more than a few of us would like to block this clown.

taxmad · March 30, 2011 12:25AM

Unless you plan on selling hundreds of items, it does not matter what your DSR's are, as you will not meet the volume required for seller discounts. It is no longer just dollars sold, it is dollars and number of items sold.

Additionally the handling time is business days, not calendar days, so payment on Friday means shipping on Tuesday.

Staircoins · March 30, 2011 12:29AM

<< If this very impatient buyer negs you, please let us know who he is. I'm sure that more than a few of us would like to block this clown. >>

Neg or no neg - Life's too short to put up with jerks like this. I say out him already!

poorguy · March 30, 2011 12:44AM

Yeah, ebay gives buyers, no matter how sh**ty they are, complete control. However, some sellers can be just as bad as what you experienced. I bought a toned morgan from a seller. I bought it on Thursday and went back and fourth with the seller communicating through eBay messages (husband and wife team, wife handled ebay messages). Jhon and I don't keep much of a balance in paypal as we use it primarily for recieving payments for items. I don't buy much at all on eBay but when I do, I communicate with the seller about sending a check saving them fees. During this friendly back and fourth, the wife tells me that her husband wants to know if I am the same Brandon Kelley of Anaconda. I responded nicely that he may know me from my days at Anaconda. A couple more back and fourths and they still wanted paypal. So, on Monday, I get a call around 9AM (I believe). I pick up the phone and without a moment to respond, the guy says "What are you trying to pull on me? Since you didn't pay, I'm cancelling the transaction." I ask him what on earth he is talking about and he hangs up on me. So, I go into ebay and immediately pay him via echeck. Keep in mind that there wasn't a 12hr period where we didn't communicate via ebay messages. I'm pretty sure he thought I had "ripped" the coin since I handled alot of toned Morgans in the past and if I was interested, it must be worth more than he was asking. Funny though, when I got the coin in, it had "dead color" and wasn't worth near what they were asking. I returned it and the wife asked how much it I thought it was worth and I said around $750 (as opposed to the ~$1700) I paid for it. It appeared on eBay again after a couple weeks at ~$900. Another funny thing is that a buddy of mine here in Dallas then bought it and didn't have much problem with the seller.

Seller code of ethics:

1. Don't be an ass.
2. If you are in communicado with someone who bought an item, don't harass them for payment 48 hours after the sale (especially over the weekend). Keep your head cool for a week then start politely inquiring about payment.
3. Package your goods well. Nothing says unprofessional like a beat up envelope nearly ripped open and only held closed by your bacteria-filled saliva.
4. Don't post misleading pictures as you will have to deal with returns and a buyer with a bitter taste left in their mouths.
5. Allow returns.
6. Charge for shipping roughly what it costs you to ship.

Buyer code of ethics:
1. Don't be an ass.
2. Keep good communication with the seller especially if you bought something from a mom and pop shop that is of higher value than they typically sell.
3. Don't whine and moan about shipping charges unless they are much higher than what it costs the seller to ship.
4. Don't be a chronic returner. Nothing irritates a seller more than a buyer who returns 9 out of 10 purchases. Regarding auctions for this: YOU ARE COSTING THE SELLER MONEY BY RETURNING AN ITEM. After the item is returned, they have to put it up in another auction (7+ days) and they usually get passed over because people have seen it already and realize that somebody already returned it. Nobody wants sloppy seconds.
5. Offer to pay via check if you are comfortable with the seller. You'll save the seller mucho paypal fees and they'll be grateful.
6. When returning an item, use the same care the seller used to ship it to you.

pf70collector · March 30, 2011 12:50AM

I am grateful for my buyers. Don't mind busting my ass for them. I charge shipping sometimes but its not much and I eat most of the cost of shipping anyway. I had one ebayer threaten to neg me because he did not get his item. It was his first email that I got from him. I shipped it to the address he requested. Apparently he forgot that he changed his address because he changed his confirmed mailing address a few days after I shipped the item. I gave him the shipping confirmation and signature PDF. He got his item.

johnny9434 · March 30, 2011 3:44AM

sound advice poorguy

Russ · March 30, 2011 3:51AM

eBay is like the rest of life. You're going to encounter an occasional idiot. If you can't handle it, then don't sell there.

Russ, NCNE

Amigo · March 30, 2011 6:13AM

I buy a lot of things on Ebay.

A couple weeks ago, what I think must have been an Elderly Seller advertised on his listing that he would ship USPS. My confirmed address is a POB, so that always works out well for me. I waited a couple weeks and still didn't get the package but didn't think that big a deal.

A couple days later the seller emails me very rudely asking for another $14 shipping fee because the package was returned to him. He wanted the fee again because I gave him a bad address since it was stamped something to the effect of "Not Deliverable". I politiely communicated with him, and found out he sent it UPS. I had to inform him that UPS doesn't deliver to POB. He said, well it was easier to mail UPS that day since he was going by one of their outlets. He kinda apologized when I explained everything to him. How in the World it got past the UPS clerk is beyond me.

You just have to roll with the little problems and not make them into a big deal, but many people don't grasp that concept. After I recv'd the package, I reimbursed him the other shipping fee anyway. Why not !!!, it wasn't a big deal to me, but apparentely it was to him based on his rude email to me about the returned package.

Res · March 30, 2011 6:57AM

<< I buy a lot of things on Ebay.

A couple weeks ago, what I think must have been an Elderly Seller advertised on his listing that he would ship USPS. My confirmed address is a POB, so that always works out well for me. I waited a couple weeks and still didn't get the package but didn't think that big a deal.

A couple days later the seller emails me very rudely asking for another $14 shipping fee because the package was returned to him. He wanted the fee again because I gave him a bad address since it was stamped something to the effect of "Not Deliverable". I politiely communicated with him, and found out he sent it UPS. I had to inform him that UPS doesn't deliver to POB. He said, well it was easier to mail UPS that day since he was going by one of their outlets. He kinda apologized when I explained everything to him. How in the World it got past the UPS clerk is beyond me.

You just have to roll with the little problems and not make them into a big deal, but many people don't grasp that concept. After I recv'd the package, I reimbursed him the other shipping fee anyway. Why not !!!, it wasn't a big deal to me, but apparentely it was to him based on his rude email to me about the returned package. >>

I thought UPS started delivering to PO boxes??

Russ · March 30, 2011 8:36AM

<< I thought UPS started delivering to PO boxes?? >>

It has always been my understanding that they don't. However, I've seen UPS delivering to my local post office numerous times.

Russ, NCNE

poorguy · March 30, 2011 9:16AM

<< You just have to roll with the little problems and not make them into a big deal, but many people don't grasp that concept. After I recv'd the package, I reimbursed him the other shipping fee anyway. Why not !!!, it wasn't a big deal to me, but apparentely it was to him based on his rude email to me about the returned package. >>

That wouldn't fly with me. If the seller sent it the wrong way (aside from what he stated in the auction) and it was returned to him, why on earth would he send you a rude email? AND expect you to pay more shipping. I would have told that jerk to eat it and deal with the negative he's about to get.

However, if the seller didn't send me a rude email, I would have been patient with the guy but not pay extra shipping for his screw up.

BXBOY143 · April 4, 2011 6:11AM

is it just me or are others annoyed as well that ebay, is now requiring set up of an automatic payment method for sellers fee's......

not only that they will not allow me to list any items until I set up automatic payment!

I have been an ebay Member since: Sep-06-04 have not had to set up any automatic payment method and have not had any issues paying my sellers fee's

-Paul

jom · April 4, 2011 6:18AM

<< Yeah, ebay gives buyers, no matter how sh**ty they are, complete control. However, some sellers can be just as bad as what you experienced...... >>

Great post there, poorguy! People should use that as a guide.

jom

Thought I would give ebay a try selling after several years :(

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