Dealer can't get rare coins back

Schatzy · March 22, 2011 10:14AM

<< A rare coin dealer clicked on the wrong customer's name, sending a computerized shipment order valued at nearly $38,000 to an Athens man instead of the person in Missouri who bought the coins, Athens-Clarke police said.

The package contained 10,000 silver U.S. dimes and 50 French Napoleanic-era coins, according to police.

The Minnesota coin dealer was unable to speak with the Athens man about the mistake because he didn't return several phone messages, according to police.

The man may face a theft by conversion charge because he signed for the package of coins when he picked them up at a local post office March 8, police said.

The coin dealer filed a complaint with police Wednesday. >>

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Wolf359 · March 22, 2011 10:32AM

If it's addressed to you and comes to your mail, it's yours. That's what I heard anyway.

Still considering it's an obvious error, the guy is a schmuck if he won't return the coins.

pontiacinf · March 22, 2011 10:40AM

again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand

Goldbully · March 22, 2011 10:46AM

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Schatzy · March 22, 2011 10:48AM

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Sorry.....I searched before I posted it and didn't find anything!!

Bayard1908 · March 22, 2011 10:50AM

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Enjoy prison, if you don't get shot to death first.

Coinosaurus · March 22, 2011 11:00AM

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<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Enjoy prison, if you don't get shot to death first. >>

Isn't that what OJ tried? Not recommended.......

segoja · March 22, 2011 11:02AM

I did the same thing just this week. Only about $250 Luckily the guy sent them to the right customer!

Guess sometimes you get lucky.

mrpotatoheadd · March 22, 2011 11:06AM

<< If it's addressed to you and comes to your mail, it's yours. >>

If the shipment was actually intended for you, that's true. I don't believe that holds up if the package was addressed in error, though.

notwilight · March 22, 2011 11:14AM

<< If it's addressed to you and comes to your mail, it's yours. That's what I heard anyway.
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Internet legend, old wife's tale, bar room lie, whatever you want to call it. probably originated an an over generalization of laws designed to prevent sellers from sending you unsolicited materials in hopes of selling that require you to ship them back.

I'll tell you what. Next time a dealer sends you a coin on approval ask him if he has heard about your premise. --Jerry

notwilight · March 22, 2011 11:15AM

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<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Enjoy prison, if you don't get shot to death first. >>

Isn't that what OJ tried? Not recommended....... >>

I'd put some money on pontiac to be successful and not go to prison. However, those of you who don't think you would be successful, shouldn't try it.

--Jerry

mrpotatoheadd · March 22, 2011 11:33AM

<< ...probably originated an an over generalization of laws designed to prevent sellers from sending you unsolicited materials in hopes of selling that require you to ship them back. >>

Something like that...

Receipt of Unsolicited Merchandise

A company sends you a gift in the mail--a ball point pen, a key chain, a tie. But you didn't order it. What do you do? If you are the type of person this company is looking for, you may feel guilty about accepting the item without paying for it. Don't feel guilty! It's yours, and you are under no obligation to pay anything.

You, the consumer, may only legally be sent two types of merchandise through the mail without your consent or agreement:

•Free samples which are clearly and conspicuously marked as such.
•Merchandise mailed by a charitable organization that is soliciting contributions.

And in these two cases, you can consider the merchandise a gift if you wish. In all other situations, it is illegal to send merchandise to someone, unless that person has previously ordered or requested it.

A package addressed to the wrong person by mistake certainly doesn't appear to meet these conditions.

timcoin · March 22, 2011 11:37AM

If the customer paid for the coins, they are his coins. He can sue under replevlin and conversion (explained here).

Flatwoods · March 22, 2011 11:45AM

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Please don't come today. We have enough going on.

From the same paper today.

Bayard1908 · March 22, 2011 11:55AM

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<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Enjoy prison, if you don't get shot to death first. >>

Isn't that what OJ tried? Not recommended....... >>

I'd put some money on pontiac to be successful and not go to prison. However, those of you who don't think you would be successful, shouldn't try it.

--Jerry >>

Start threatening people in their own home, especially in a Southern home that's likely to be armed, and you're gambling with your life, not your money.

GRANDAM · March 22, 2011 5:02PM

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

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Didn't OJ try this? Look where he is now

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OOOPS!!!! I should have read all the posts before I replied

jsf · March 22, 2011 5:32PM

pontiacinf wrote:

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

don't touch my junk, man.

you can sure tell that boy's never spent any time down south, he'd be leaving with some stuff in his hand alright and it'd liable to be his A-double-S.

GaCoinGuy · March 22, 2011 9:13PM

<< 

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Please don't come today. We have enough going on.

From the same paper today. >>

I heard about that. I live about 25 miles from Athens...out 441, in Demorest. Having a brother who is a cop in SC and a step-father who is a retired cop, I hope that dude don't make it to court when they catch him...ifyaknowwhadImean.

MrEureka · March 22, 2011 10:57PM

Strange that this would be considered newsworthy, at least without naming names.

johnny9434 · March 23, 2011 3:48AM

will be watching on what the outcome of this is going to be. best wishes with this and i hope it works out for ya

pennyannie · March 23, 2011 10:11AM

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Send a package to me and see if you walk away with it. With that attitude you would probably end up with criminal charges filed in more areas than not.

Looks like a mess, no way to verify what was really send in the original package.

Sounds like the package was addressed and recieved correctly, the dealer totally screwed up the whole mailing label. While keeping the coins would not be right, BUT if someone showed up acting like rambo i would be in NO hurry to hand them over. You made the mistake, and now you want to threaten. lol

illini420 · March 23, 2011 10:18AM

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<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Send a package to me and see if you walk away with it. With that attitude you would probably end up with criminal charges filed in more areas than not.

Looks like a mess, no way to verify what was really send in the original package. >>

Exactly, the if the dealer was a bad guy he could have sent $380.00 in coins to the wrong person and once he discovered the mistake and the unwilingness of the other guy to return them what is to stop him from saying it was $3,800.00 in coins or $38,000.00 in coins? Maybe the dealer should check again, perhaps there was a roll of 1909-S VDB cents in the box too???

BigE · March 23, 2011 10:48AM

Very good discussion and legal resolution by the forumites in the article posted above-----BigE

hchcoin · March 23, 2011 11:28AM

<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Years ago before I was married and had kids, I had a job doing repo for a company in the inner city. I know it seems crazy but most people will give the merchandise back if you are calm, respectful and know how to ask the right questions especially if you have a legal claim to the merchandise. I never used threats or violence based on company policy and had great success. Most people are so suprised you are there that they are pretty reasonable. And yes, I have lived in the deep south. Keep in mind, it takes a certain personality to do this kind of work.

okracer · March 23, 2011 11:35AM

I once received an Antique Map from an ebay seller that was supposed to go to another buyer.

I notified the seller & buyer, and I sent the map to the rightful owner.

A week later, in the mail I get an original art signed pencil sketch (a nice one) from the buyer, who is an artist, as a "thank you" for helping out!

(even had MY name in the sketch!!)

pennyannie · March 23, 2011 3:34PM

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<< again, if I had the guys address, id pay a visit and would deffinately be leaving with my stuff in hand >>

Typical internet babble by the rambo type. I get some calls every week on my voicemail from renters telling me that i am going to do this and do that for them ASAP or pay the consiquiences. (misspelled) When i show up knocking on their front door the look on their face is priceless. Most of the time they blame the Mrs. for the deal or they were trying to impress someone present listening to the message they left on my voicemail.

A lot of small communities do not like outsiders coming in acting like rambo. In the small towns around me the biggest misstake most people make is hiring a big city lawyer to represent them in court against the home town professionals.

So to change this alittle, the guy decides to mail the coins back, he does not track or insure the package. Dealer claims they are never recieved, although the guy can show he shipped a package to that zip code.

Or the guy sends half the coins back, insured and tracked. How can that be proven?

PerryHall · March 23, 2011 5:04PM

<< Or the guy sends half the coins back, insured and tracked. How can that be proven? >>

When dealing with a seller that you don't totally trust, open the package in front of a postal employee---preferably one that knowns you. If your package is light you at least have a credible witness that can vouch for your claim.

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