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Heritage Newp Quarter Eagle! Guess the grade! Grade Posted in 1st page.

AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
I loved the look of this in Heritage's images so I took a chance. It is in an OGH, and from the images the scratches are on the slab.
Thoughts?

She is an MS62.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember seeing that while reviewing images as I have a late date PCGS/OGH Liberty QE project going on. 50% chance it's good, 50% chance the color is wrong. Either way, you should be able to recoup most of your money if you need to ditch out of it.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    MS63

    Edited to add: I agree about the color... odd transition behind her hair coils.
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Nice RPD!
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    I'm going to guess MS63. I think the scratches on the reverse above the eagle and the obverse ones in front of Liberty are on the coin.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    I have terrible trouble with Heritage's pictures of gold.

    That said, I'll guess it's a 58/63 slider, I'll say you picked it up in a 58 slab.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • 64
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63, shot 64, IMHO.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That said, I'll guess it's a 58/63 slider, I'll say you picked it up in a 58 slab. >>



    It's not a slider as there's no rub on either the obverse or reverse.

    Not sure how hard the reverse gashes crucified the grade but it does looks MS63-64 otherwise.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yeah, I personally don't see a slider there at all.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Gosh thanks lordmarcovan I see you've been on FB chatting with my ex again imageimageimage >>



    Broadstruck... it's good to see your ex-wife is finally dating a man! imageimage >>



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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


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    Gosh thanks lordmarcovan I see you've been on FB chatting with my ex again imageimageimage >>



    Broadstruck... it's good to see your ex-wife is finally dating a man! imageimage >>



    llafoe, Remind me if you ever buy anything off my BST that I'd like to deliver it in person! imageimage >>



    Absolutely... let me check my calendar, ahh yes, June is my month to purchase dreck; I'll remind you in June! image
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that kicked off quite the exchange, now, didn't it?

    I think that's an underused emoticon. But I reserve it only for special people.

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    Why, thank you, LordM. I agree with you.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    ttt
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>ttt >>



    You tease! I thought you actually posted the grade! image
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That said, I'll guess it's a 58/63 slider, I'll say you picked it up in a 58 slab. >>



    It's not a slider as there's no rub on either the obverse or reverse.

    Not sure how hard the reverse gashes crucified the grade but it does looks MS63-64 otherwise. >>



    I'm not sure how you can speak authoritatively from a photo...

    FWIW, I graded it what I did because of apparent field rub on both obverse and reverse that appears to have impacted the luster in these areas. Of course I could be misinterpreting the photos.

    That said, if you think the coin is a 63/64, I think you are going to be surprised when Ankur reveals the grade. image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not sure how you can speak authoritatively from a photo...

    FWIW, I graded it what I did because of apparent field rub on both obverse and reverse that appears to have impacted the luster in these areas. Of course I could be misinterpreting the photos.

    That said, if you think the coin is a 63/64, I think you are going to be surprised when Ankur reveals the grade. image >>



    The Heritage images on this lil lady are really good compared to the LI that MOC's posted he won.

    I've owned dozens of these in the past from XF45 to MS64 and have bought many from the comforts of my armchair.

    I still see no rub and really doubt it's in a AU holder, but then due to the field issue MS61/62 wouldn't shock me either.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Totally UNC as there's no break in luster on any of the key grading points shown in pink...

    Reverse top of the wings should go out to the tips... But was having issues doing ovals as I don't paint much.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Will post the grade tonight.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last minute entry: 65

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  • My guess is 63 and it looks like a strong 63 in the images.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    MS63 but I don't like the color at all.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Broadstruck,

    Thanks for taking the time to annotate the picture with the high points of the design.

    I hear what you're saying and I think I understand -- that a coin without any apparent high point rub is not going to grade AU. Philosophically, I agree.

    However, I cannot speak authoritatively from a photo (much less a Heritage photo), and, with all due respect, neither can you.

    While it does not appear to have any high point rub, let's remember we are looking at one photograph. The photograph has a blown red channel on the obverse photo (which masks details such as rub), and is lit in such a way that makes deciphering what we are seeing on the reverse very difficult, IMO.

    However, what was even more confusing to me was apparent field rub without any discernible high point rub -- which suggests, to me at least, that there's some high point rub we are not seeing as I cannot fathom a way that a coin gets friction in the fields without any friction on the high points.

    So when I see a coin with what appears to be obvious field rub (and certainly I could be wrong in this assessment), I automatically think 58/63 slider rather than a grade from 63 to 65.

    Anyway, thanks for the discussion on the coin. I know these guess the grade threads aren't liked by a contingent of this forum, but personally I really enjoy them & appreciate the discussion. Take care....Mike
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another MS63 guess. Last year of issue coins are neat.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Any other guesses before I post the grade?
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    posted
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Very nice coin. If it was not lightly cleaned I could see this with a 65 grade or higher. I wish I would have seen this thread earlier
  • I have to believe it was silently downgraded to 62. I would be very interested in seeing your pics after it arrives.

    Did you pick it up for 62 money?

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