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1816 Large Cent

jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This is a Large Cent that I bought at a farm auction. The advertisement for the auction listed "hundreds" of Large Cents, so I was intrigued. The upshot is that virtually all of them were in rough shape, and included dates from 1794 through 1857.

These photos are after some TLC. Note the scratches on the reverse and that there is sufficient crud interpersed throughout all of the devices.

The color is ok, but tell me your opinions, please.

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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    The scratch is a bit distracting, but not horribly so on a circulated example. It looks original. Nice coin.
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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it needs to continue soaking in olive oil or mineral spirits for a while, to remove more of the crud. Otherwise I like the planchet color. And yes the rev scratch is bit distracting, but not a killer if you were just looking to acquire an inexpensive early Matron large cent.
    I believe it is the N-4 variety, listed as R2.
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  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    It does appear to be an N4. The planchet does not look all that bad.
    EAC 10 net 6 or 7 depending on in-hand view IMO.

    Did you buy them all? If so waht was the breakdown for 94's and 16's and any Classics?
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The advertisement for the auction listed "hundreds" of Large Cents, so I was intrigued. The upshot is that virtually all of them were in rough shape, and included dates from 1794 through 1857. >>

    That sounds like a fun lot to paw through, never mind the condition.

    I like your coin. But then again, I like most coins of that era, regardless of what sort of lives they've led. I'm easy that way. You'd really have to murder a coin like that before I'd dislike it.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you buy them all? If so waht was the breakdown for 94's and 16's and any Classics?

    This was last fall, but as I remember the prices for the early dates were way ridiculous. As I recall, I think there were actually (3) 1794s in rough shape, and the cheapest one went for around $800, while one of the others went for something like $2,000.

    This was my only acquisition, and it was a mistake because I actually got mixed up on my lot numbers and thought I was bidding on a different coin.image I viewed most of the coins, but I only wrote notes down on about 15 or 20 of them, and I actually only bid on 2 or 3. The prices didn't jive with my evaluations.

    It took at least 2 1/2 hours to view most of the lots, going 5 at a time, and I didn't keep my notes from that day. Most of the coins were really not too good - many resided in 2x2s that had slime buildup on the insides from 40+ years of storage.

    By the time they were halfway through the 400+ lots of Large Cents, I was pretty much satisfied that my time was better spent driving home.
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  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    jmski - thanks for the detailed reply.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Opinions? I think it's fine for what it is. So many of these early cents are rough. (Okay, it is technically the first year of the "middle dates".)

    What did it set you back? I could see paying $40 but not much more.

    What TLC did you use? Xylol might be helpful.
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  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a "Scudzy" Fine 15 to me, probably a net VG 7 to the EAC boys.
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A nice original chocolate brown copper piece... Grades F15 details (scratch). Needs an acetone bath for the PVC removal. It's unfortunate for those rev. scratches, but overall looks very decent.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looks like a f 15 to me to. how many large cents did you pick up or was that the only one?
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was this in Ohio, by any chance? I remember going to the small auctions there, and being amazed at what large cents consistently went for. I still recall a rough looking (and altered date) 1799 cent, that the auctioneer even said was of questionable authenticity, bringing $1200....and this was more than 10 yrs ago. To this day, I buy just about any date large cent that is in nice shape and reasonably priced, recalling what some people pay for junkers.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    N-4. Nice color and originality. If there were a term "dirty copper", this coin would earn it. Reverse scratches are the biggest negative. EAC 10 net 6, IMO. TPG grade F details.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What did it set you back? I could see paying $40 but not much more.

    What TLC did you use? Xylol might be helpful.

    I shelled out $40.00. My TLC consisted of a mineral oil soak, dabbing off the excess and a light brushing with some Coin Care & a camelhair brush.

    Looks like a "Scudzy" Fine 15 to me, probably a net VG 7 to the EAC boys.

    Yep, that's about what it looks like to me.image

    Was this in Ohio, by any chance?

    Nope, not too far from Kansas City, MO.

    If there were a term "dirty copper", this coin would earn it.

    Yeah, that's prolly about right!
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