Options
~ Post Some Virginal pre Civil War Red or RB Copper ~ (Can We Hit 75?)
Broadstruck
Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
1836 R & W Robinson - Attleboro, Massachusetts HT-155 / Low 104
This was another token that was just neat to trace to the turn of the century...
Ex. Dice/Hicks, Litman, Griner/Rudduck, Oechsner, Miller, Dupont, Tilden, Bird collections,and the Edgar Adams 1914 plate coin of Lyman Low's Hard Times Tokens.
This was another token that was just neat to trace to the turn of the century...
Ex. Dice/Hicks, Litman, Griner/Rudduck, Oechsner, Miller, Dupont, Tilden, Bird collections,and the Edgar Adams 1914 plate coin of Lyman Low's Hard Times Tokens.
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
0
Comments
Nice HTT
Both tokens posted here where part of this sale.
Tilden bought the Bird and Shumway collections along with many others from Henry Chapman and Elmer Sears.
Donald Miller with the financial assistance of George DuPont as an intermediary purchased the Tilden offerings by Rendell.
It's was neat to add the confirmed Bird provenance.
1841 Daniel Webster HT-20 / Low 62
EX- Madison, Gilbert Steinberg, Joseph Griner, Herbert Oeschner, Donald Miller, George DuPont, George T. Tilden, Robert Bird.
Photo by Mark Goodman.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>I wish I could post something but you might be flying solo for a while.
Nice HTT >>
Thanks tydye
This one also has an intense provenance and is Russell Rulau's plate coin in his book on Hard Times Tokens.
Struck from rusted dies with some haze on the slab
Ex. Gilbert Steinberg collection and the RedBook plate coin in the Hard Times Tokens section.
This is probably the first cent-sized satirical political type token which achieved wide circulation and it opened the door for a flood of similar items. The die was cut by Edward Hulseman in Attleboro, Mass. in the fall of 1833 and the tokens were struck by the button-makers Robinson's Jones & Co. of Attleboro who was Hulseman's employer from 1833 to 1836. The tokens of this and later types (HT 69, 71 and 72) refer to Jackson, who is shown with sword and purse. The adoption of the sword and purse device continued for some time after the Whigs had taken the reins of government. The Albany Argus daily city gazette for October 1, 1842 published "The liberties of the country were alarmingly threatened under Mr. Van Buren's administration by a union of the purse with the sword in the same hands."
<< <i>Why the bias against CW copper??
I'll make an exception on your Running Dogs as that was an exceptional detailed execution on a smaller cent sized planchet and your pups look like they hadn't breed yet
.
CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
<< <i>
cardinal, Nice to see you join in.... Please post a few more!
.
CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
.
CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
<< <i>
boiler78, Thanks for tossing in your two cents worth!
Who is John Galt?
<< <i>SmallEagle and Cardinal just took this thread over the top!!! Wow GREAT coins!
Yeah, I was going to post something but - uh - nevermind!
Empty Nest Collection
Matt’s Mattes
And an explanation for the peculiar "restrike" 1804 cent:
I knew it would happen.
Neither were large cents.
There were, of course, gobs of them in circulation. But only specie, in that era, was legal tender.
Cardinal, I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm glad you got over your silver fixation and discovered the glories of copper! You know precisely how I feel about your 1803 LC, for instance.
Betts medals, colonial coins, US Mint medals, foreign coins found in early America, and other numismatic Americana
<< <i>Not to be a total nit-picker, but the 1799 halfpenny wasn't legal tender.
Neither were large cents.
There were, of course, gobs of them in circulation. But only specie, in that era, was legal tender.
Cardinal, I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm glad you got over your silver fixation and discovered the glories of copper! You know precisely how I feel about your 1803 LC, for instance. >>
JK, thank you for the clarification on the legal tender issue. I stand corrected!
Yes, Early Copper is certainly inspiring, and the 1803 LC is an amazing piece! It's the only one I was able to get from the Naftzger I sale in 2008, and well worth its record price. I do, though, still have an appreciation for early silver.
<< <i>Best thread of the month. Holy sheet. >>
I second that....itjustmay be the best thread in the past few months
.
CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
I knew it would happen.
Wow thanks everyone
1837 "Millions for Defense, Not One Cent for Tribute" HT-48 / Low-33
<< <i>
<< <i>Best thread of the month. Holy sheet. >>
I second that....itjustmay be the best thread in the past few months
1837 Illustrious Predecessor HT-34 / Low-20.
The name "Shin Plasters" was applied to bills of irresponsible banks and private parties. The phoenix rising from flames seems to mean that the paper money was only fit to be burned and that with its destruction new life would spring from its ashes. The date November 1837 is that of a convention held in New York on the 27th of that month by representatives of leading banks in nineteen states to fix a date for resumption. They met again the 16th of April, 1838 and decided to resume specie payments the 10th of May following which was successfully accomplished after a suspension of exactly one year.
I knew it would happen.
https://thepennylady.com/
<< <i>Not to be a total nit-picker, but the 1799 halfpenny wasn't legal tender.
Neither were large cents.
There were, of course, gobs of them in circulation. But only specie, in that era, was legal tender. >>
From coinfacts:
<< <i>Like the Large Cent, the Small Cent was not legal tender, so it should have come as no surprise that it, too, would be rejected by bankers and merchants. >>
So, apparantly none of this stuff was "legal tender." When was it made so?
Empty Nest Collection
Matt’s Mattes
1838 New York - Am I not a Woman & Sister HT-81 / Low 54
This is the classic antislavery token is also said to commemorate the formation of the Liberty Party in 1838. Thanks to the research of Eric P. Newman, collectors may now know a good deal more about the background of HT 81 and HT 82. His conclusions are summarized here: In late 1837 the American Anti-Slavery Society, located at 143 Nassau Street, New York, commissioned the firm of Gibbs Gardner & Co. of Belleville, N.J. to strike copper tokens (HT 81, the Kneeling Female piece). The tokens probably cost the AASS about 50 cents per hundred, as they contained copper then worth 39.5 cents per hundred. Beginning May 4, 1833, the AASS published a weekly newspaper, The Emancipator, published by Charles W. Denison and edited by Joshua Leavitt. In its issue of Nov. 23, 1837, the Emancipator ran an advertisement offering the Female Slave tokens at $1 per hundred. Made of good copper and with a device on reverse similar to legal U.S. cents, they sold well. The ad also said that it was proposed to issue Kneeling Male Slave tokens as well, and this accounts for the few pattern pieces of HT 82, which were never produced for circulation. U.S. Mint Director Patterson moved quickly to suppress the circulation of HT 81, and it is apparent that by late December, 1837, he had succeeded in part. No further ads for the Female Slave tokens appeared in the AASS weekly or in other Journals, but since the number of pieces of HT 81 still surviving is quite large, they may well have been distributed by middlemen who paid about 62 cents per hundred for them in early 1838. Gibbs Gardner & Co. were selected by the AASS in part because John Gibbs’ Belleville Mint had also struck the 1833 Liberia cent tokens for another American anti-slavery group in Maryland. The AASS actually distributed a British anti-slavery medal in the U.S. in 1835, selling for 25 cents each, the 1834 Emancipation Jubilee Medal.
Edited to correct stupidity