Can I sell a PSA 10, if it doesn't look like a 10?

metsfan · February 19, 2011 9:35AM

I have a 1998 Finest Paul Pierce that appears to have a wax stain on it, but it's graded a 10. I wanted to put the scan on here, but it doesn't show in the scan. I had wanted to sell the card, but don't feel right selling a card that doesn't appear to be a 10. Are stains common on this card? I could put the scan up, but don't think it shows anything.

CNote · February 19, 2011 9:43AM

I have zero experience with opening a pack of anything after 1990, but is there any wax involved in the pack sealing process for stuff that new? I thought the packs would be foil, and thermally sealed somehow?

metsfan · February 19, 2011 9:49AM

<< I have zero experience with opening a pack of anything after 1990, but is there any wax involved in the pack sealing process for stuff that new? I thought the packs would be foil, and thermally sealed somehow? >>

I don't think they use wax anymore, but it looks like a wax stain. It's a refractor, and I'm not sure if they had coating on them? If they had coating it could be residue. Wish it would show up on the scan.

WinPitcher · February 19, 2011 9:55AM

Of course you can, describe what you think is a flaw.

swartz1 · February 19, 2011 9:57AM

I am sure PSA will stand behind their grade...

metsfan · February 19, 2011 10:02AM

I can describe it, but how many people actually read the description? It's a pretty long stain, so it will be obvious to a buyer. I bought it on Ebay years ago, and almost contacted the seller, but never did, because it was a good price.

Toro · February 19, 2011 11:57AM

It's surface damage, I've had a few that have the same "stain". It's a dulling of the finish. Would you want to pay the price of a Pierce PSA 10 that is a PSA 5.

WinPitcher · February 19, 2011 12:14PM

Umm, not to be adversarial here but people that are in that market (with a proper description)

won't be paying 10 money for the card. Of course I am only speaking of those that read descriptions.

Also, if a buyer receives the card and is unhappy, you have to refund them anyway.

Let them decide if it's worth it.

Please let's not make this into an ethics thread. Sell it, don't sell it.

WinPitcher · February 19, 2011 12:18PM

Above all just tell the truth.....................

Dialj · February 20, 2011 1:16AM

Remember to raise your right hand and ... follow WinPitcher's advice.

digicat · February 20, 2011 5:11AM

call or email PSA and ask them to review the card. They've done this for free in the past. If they screwed up, they'll pay the difference.

shagrotn77 · February 20, 2011 5:22AM

This card sells for what, maybe $10 or $15? List it and mention the wax stain. If it doesn't sell, it doesn't sell. It's not even worth getting PSA involved for such a minuscule amount.

WinPitcher · February 20, 2011 6:20AM

lol Are you kidding me? This is a 10.00 - 15.00 card?

ok...................

digicat · February 20, 2011 7:18AM

<< This card sells for what, maybe $10 or $15? List it and mention the wax stain. If it doesn't sell, it doesn't sell. It's not even worth getting PSA involved for such a minuscule amount. >>

Ok, I didn't know the card value. I figured that if someone took the trouble to make a post about it, it would be worth a little more. My mistake.

Hallco · February 20, 2011 8:05AM

The guy that the forum loves to hate...Kevin Burge... is selling one that ends tonight and it is already up to $89.00!

So if this one ends at a high bid...(50/50 chance that the buyer will actually receive the card of course)....it may be actually be in your best interest to send it in to PSA for a review!!!!

Ebay auction Pierce PSA 10!

Stone193 · February 20, 2011 9:00AM

I don't sell on ebay but honesty is always the best policy.

A good scan - front and back and describe the card.

A buyer will appreciate that and remember the seller IMO.

sportscardtheory · February 20, 2011 9:25AM

It's not your job to grade cards that are already graded. If a buyer ever has a beef with a PSA grade, they can take it up with PSA.

metsfan · February 20, 2011 9:39AM

I have no problem being honest about it, but the mark doesn't show on the scan. The card is not worth $10-$15, it wouldn't be worth anyone's time if I posted a thread about it. When I saw the other auction for the same card, I didn't realize it was Kevin Burge's auction. For some reason it doesn't seem to be an easy card to find, not sure why that would be.

vladguerrero · February 20, 2011 9:46AM

since these cards didn't have wax wrappers it's probably a gum stain

WinPitcher · February 20, 2011 10:39AM

SCT describing a flaw is not grading a card.

PSA 10's are NOT flawless.

Steve

hhmag70 · February 20, 2011 10:49AM

<< It's not your job to grade cards that are already graded. If a buyer ever has a beef with a PSA grade, they can take it up with PSA. >>

Nice.

mike22y2k · February 20, 2011 10:55AM

Steve is 100% correct. PSA 10's are not flawless as I'm learning as I try to collect more of them.

Accurate descriptions are all you need. Let the buyer decide.

I recently sold a Gretzky card that was miscut from an unopened box to a buyer and I told him that I'd take it back if he didn't want it after he received it. He was happy with it.

Transaction completed and no longer my problem.

Mike

shagrotn77 · February 20, 2011 11:00AM

Is this a Refractor or the regular issue?

Stone193 · February 20, 2011 11:05AM

<< It's not your job to grade cards that are already graded. If a buyer ever has a beef with a PSA grade, they can take it up with PSA. >>

One can take this position but if one wants repeat customers - not a good idea.

handyman · February 20, 2011 11:08AM

LOL, the entire thread.
How many opinions do we need on a card now a days. Pay for one, which we are all guilty. There will always be a % that doesnt agree, we are all picky. But I just dont get the point without a pic for this tread!

Stone193 · February 20, 2011 11:10AM

<< LOL, the entire thread.
How many opinions do we need on a card now a days. Pay for one, which we are all guilty. There will always be a % that doesnt agree, we are all picky. But I just dont get the point without a pic for this tread! >>

Probably because what goes on here is about 20% hobby and 80% chit chat.

swartz1 · February 20, 2011 11:39AM

Hard to believe this got past three graders...

digicat · February 20, 2011 1:10PM

I'd be curious to see the card we're all talking about.

sportscardtheory · February 20, 2011 1:19PM

I'll bet that most of the people saying to mention any flaws on a graded 10 are the same people who hate it when sellers say things like this 8 "looks like a 9" or "this card is under-graded".

handyman · February 20, 2011 1:20PM

agree

Hallco · February 20, 2011 1:33PM

WOW...the Queencity card ended at almost $150.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!

metsfan · February 21, 2011 1:09AM

This thread has gotten way more posts then I expected. A couple of points:

1. It is a refractor
2. The reason I don't have scan up is it doesn't show on the scan
3. I will probably call PSA and ask about this issue and see if this is common
4. Just wanted to say thanks to a few members that sent me pm's with good advice/info

stown · February 21, 2011 4:49AM

Talk with PSA's customer service department and see what they have to say. If it's common or not a big deal in their opinion, list it as stone suggested.

<< I don't sell on ebay but honesty is always the best policy.

A good scan - front and back and describe the card.

A buyer will appreciate that and remember the seller IMO >>

WinPitcher · February 21, 2011 9:54AM

<< I'll bet that most of the people saying to mention any flaws on a graded 10 are the same people who hate it when sellers say things like this 8 "looks like a 9" or "this card is under-graded". >>

I think most of the people that said to mention the flaw would mention it regardless of the grade.....

And, more importantly, touting a card is under graded or looks like a 9 or whatever is opinion.

A flaw is a fact.

Huge difference.

Can I sell a PSA 10, if it doesn't look like a 10?

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