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i dunno if i am more peeved at the seller or the bidiots

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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are going to be one mighty disgusted bidder in a few days. I say it's a tax on people who are too stupd to read the auction carefully.
    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So very deceptive!!

    I can see the buyer at his post office, pick up the parcel and right away think to himself "Why is this package so light??".
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  • I reported it as potentially misleading. We will see what happens.
    Lurker since '02. Got the seven year itch!

    Gary
  • mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wow, and no returns accepted, that should be a warning right there
  • "Stupid is as stupid does"
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pay with paypal, item not as pictured, stupidity will be excused
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeesh
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • Scumbag is running it in more than just the one auction--same scam.
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh the joys of dealing with a NYC pawn shop. They're always so honest and upright.image
    successful BST deals with Meltdown, Broadstruck, lordmarcovan, MisterTicToc, JINX86, BXBOY143, MBCOINS and others
  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At least the shipping is free

    Bruce
  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    Don't worry, the "winner" will get a good education for a relatively small amount of money.
    Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭
    " we do not charge for shipping and handling i can assure you we do pay the post office for shipping , in case of we accept a return we will deduct the postage from you refund , accept we made mistake on our listing"

    With that kind of grasp on the English language, how could you go wrong?image
  • So, which is "THE BEST Deal ON EBAY", one nickel or one Kennedy half? image
    FULL Heads RULE!


  • << <i>So very deceptive!!

    I can see the buyer at his post office, pick up the parcel and right away think to himself "Why is this package so light??". >>



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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are going to be one mighty disgusted bidder in a few days. I say it's a tax on people who are too stupd to read the auction carefully. >>



    Auctions like that don't make it easy to read and make sure there wasn't a typo. Sure, someone could ask the seller, but the way it is set up is deceptive. Blaming the buyer is shortsighted and poor.
    The seller KNOWS what they are doing and is hoping for something just like this....THEY should be penalized.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • dbemikedbemike Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭
    Bid jumped to $15.50 as I was lookingimage
  • Worst yet...his picture states that they're "ALL 64's"imageimage
    FULL Heads RULE!
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a crook! image
  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    funny feedback.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Worst yet...his picture states that they're "ALL 64's"imageimage >>

    They *are* all 1964s. Did you link to the wrong listing?
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats not good in the least bit image. im glad seller got reported
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Worst yet...his picture states that they're "ALL 64's"imageimage >>

    They *are* all 1964s. Did you link to the wrong listing? >>

    Matters not.



    << <i>YOU ARE BIDING FOR ONE COINS %90 SILVER KENNEDY HALVES >>



    "Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy,
    it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are,
    the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.
    The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.
    Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
    Amzanig huh?"

    People can read without actually "reading" which is the ploy being used by this seller. All their minds see is this multiple coins pictured and the words "BIDDING" "COINS" "%90 Slver"

    Ha ha waht an idiot! He can't spell.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    I like this in her feedback:

    Feedback she received: Scam ?? I received EMPTY Envelope from him... is it a Joke ????

    Her eloquent response: BS, EVERY ITEM HAS WIGHT WEN WE SHP U AINT GETING NUTING FOR FRE UR THE SCAMER
    Tim Puro
    Puro's Coins and Jewelry
    Rutland, VT

    (802)773-3883

    Link to my website www.vtcoins.com

    Link to my eBay auctions

    Buy, sell and trade all coins, US paper money, jewelry, diamonds and anything made of gold, silver or platinum.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These guys have nearly 50 neg/neutral feedbacks. A ton of them on lost shipments, failure to deliver, etc, etc.

    If you want to risk being scammed on DVD's, razors, and other items, this pawn shop seems to be the place to hang your hat.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    I think its deceptive in that the photo shows a group of nickels, but it says right at the top that you are bidding on ONE coin. Its slightly deceptive based on the photo, but I think that they win a SNAD claim.
    Successful B/S/T transactions: As Seller: PascoWA (June 2008); MsMorrisine (April 2009); ECHOES (July 2009) As Buyer: bfjohnson (July 2008); robkool (Dec 2010); itsnotjustme (Dec 2010) TwoSides2aCoin (Dec 2018) PrivateCoin Jan 2019
  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭
    He states it pretty darn clearly in large letters its one coin that you get. Cant calll it a ripoff if you dont pay attention.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He states it pretty darn clearly in large letters its one coin that you get. Cant calll it a ripoff if you dont pay attention. >>

    I believe that there is intent to deceive, or, if you prefer, to snare careless bidders. Otherwise, why include images of multiple coins, if they are not part of the listing?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    This seller should be booted from eBay. Period.

    Russ, NCNE
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    reported as well. misleading for sure.
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love ebay, it makes B&M look sooooo much better. The same can be said for TV!
    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211




  • << <i>opinions are always cheap here >>



    $15.50 for 1 well circulated silver Jefferson?!?!?

    OM friggin G!
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NY Spawn Shop is running a dozen or two similarly deceptive auctions. But for the most part they haven't snared anyone, except the same "dumb" bidder a couple of times. Do they really need the extra $15 a week?

    In checking out multiple war nick auctions the same bidder instigated the move to $15 or $20 for the one coin. They were prompt jumps from $1.65 right to $15.00. In some cases another bidder still jumped them at that level and they again rejumped. I think it's shill bidding to reel someone in. The same bidder is high bidder on most of those nickel lots at about $1.65 to $1.85. So either they went nuts on 2 or 3 lots or there is something amiss in the bids. In fact there are 3 war nickel auction items in a row (within 2 minutes of each other) that are identical and the bids in sequence: $1.80....$15.....$1.80. So clearly there is a reason for the method. Could be as simple as forgetting to enter the decimal point...though that doesn't explain jumping your own stupid bid yet again to ensure you remain on top.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Silver is moving up! Prices are higher now, even on raw material.
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Matters not.

    "YOU ARE BIDING FOR ONE COINS %90 SILVER KENNEDY HALVES" >>

    Yeah, I understand that part. I was addressing the poster who was apparently upset that the seller said the coins were all 64s, when that was actually the date on all the coins pictured.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    The interesting thing is that it takes 2 bidders to bid without reading for these singles to sell for "group" money.

    I do think there's something intentional about using plurals in the description.

    "they" "64s" "coins" "halves" "all"
    Ed


  • << <i>He states it pretty darn clearly in large letters its one coin that you get. Cant calll it a ripoff if you dont pay attention. >>



    I agree.

    Maybe a little misleading, but no more than "drinking this softdrink will suddenly make you popular and full of life" or "this cologne will make you irresistable to women".


    Caveat Emptor - The axiom or principle in commerce that the buyer alone is responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying.


  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Matters not.

    "YOU ARE BIDING FOR ONE COINS %90 SILVER KENNEDY HALVES" >>



    Come on now, if you are quoting that, then quote the last part of it that continues the deception. The full thing reads:
    "YOU ARE BIDING FOR ONE COINS %90 SILVER KENNEDY HALVES ALL ARE DATED"

    That "ALL" kind of reinforces the deception, don't you think?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • RMLTM79RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
    He sells knock off Gillette razors as well. I made the mistake of buying them (from another seller) on Ebay and they look identical to the real thing but man are they terrible. You can't even shave 1 time with them.
  • Ill defend the seller on this one ( I rarely do). But this one does say numerous times Silver war time NICKEL. later one it says I will pick the coin randomly ( once again saying its a single coin, and he priced out the lot to be 1.78 which is roughly the price of 1 nickel and not any great number of nickels. In big letters it says YOU ARE BIDING FOR ONE COIN ALL ARE DATED" what more do you want. I would say be peeved at the Bidiots and not the seller on this one. Someone just needs to read the auction before they bid and if they dont listen well its their lesson to learn.
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  • If you dont read the ad you might not get what your expecting, thats what this is BUT if you actually read the ad then you know what your getting. Like when you see a Toyota for 9000 new. You see the words NEW , TOYOTA 9000$ and maybe you see the gasmileage rating. What you dont see is manual windows no AC no cruise no radio and no power locks. The car witha bunch of deletes. So you walk in there thinking your getting a great deal to learn its not. If you dont read and you buy then you get burned. If you read and you still buy and are unhappy then you are SOL.
    Founder of the NDCCA. *WAM Count : 025. *NDCCA Database Count : 2,610. *You suck 6/24/10. <3 In memory of Tiggar 5/21/1994 - 5/28/2010 <3
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ill defend the seller on this one ( I rarely do). But this one does say numerous times Silver war time NICKEL. later one it says I will pick the coin randomly ( once again saying its a single coin, and he priced out the lot to be 1.78 which is roughly the price of 1 nickel and not any great number of nickels. In big letters it says YOU ARE BIDING FOR ONE COIN ALL ARE DATED" what more do you want. I would say be peeved at the Bidiots and not the seller on this one. Someone just needs to read the auction before they bid and if they dont listen well its their lesson to learn. >>

    The "what more" that I want is for a seller who is selling one coin to show a picture of that coin, and not a group of coins.

    It is obvious that the seller's attempts at deception are successful and bidders are being fooled. Again, why show a group of coins like that, if not to deceive?
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    i read the auction, i dont see anything that is all that deceptive, title says ONE nickel, auction says ONE nickel, if the seller would have a picture of $20 saints, how many of those saints would one expect to receive ? the buyer will cry and blame the seller because he didnt bother to read the auction. it shouldnt matter if the seller has a picture of 1000 horses, it is the buyers responsibility to READ the listing, the sellers fault here is that he expected the buyer to be able to read. joke's on him.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I reiterate one of my eBay 'Golden Rules':

    "Bad Grammar / Spelling = Bad Sale"

    I would agree that the seller is using shady sales tactics, but I am reassured that going through life condemned to that type of grammar, syntax, and spelling would be a he// all its own and a deserved punishment.

    Drunner
    (Never buy a Doily from someone who can't differentiate between there, their, and they're)
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    i would rather buy from someone with bad grammar than sell to someone that cannot/wont read
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It pays to READ the ads. I've seen MS-63's listed as 64's in the listing, but read the description, it is listed as a 63. Pics don't always tell the story either. I jumped on a PCGS type 3.5 sample slab and when I got it, it was cracked. The thing was shipped in an envelope with something wrapped around it. I was about to blast off a comment to the seller when I decided to look at the listing again. Item was exactly as described. The seller said it was cracked (it did not show well in the pics) So the only one I have to blame is ........me. image
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i would rather buy from someone with bad grammar than sell to someone that cannot/wont read >>

    And I'd rather buy from someone who doesn't try to trick bidders with images of items that aren't part of the listing.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    He's a sleazeball, and should be shown the door. This seller is consistently providing a negative experience to buyers.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Russ and Mark above.
    People making excuses for sellers like this actually worry me. It's the reason that scum like this stay around and prey on others....and they excused for it as well.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • As often as not it's people who choose to defend sellers like this that would be first in the queue to post long winded threads of complaint when something untoward happens to them on the bay.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i read the auction, i dont see anything that is all that deceptive, title says ONE nickel, auction says ONE nickel, if the seller would have a picture of $20 saints, how many of those saints would one expect to receive ? the buyer will cry and blame the seller because he didnt bother to read the auction. it shouldnt matter if the seller has a picture of 1000 horses, it is the buyers responsibility to READ the listing, the sellers fault here is that he expected the buyer to be able to read. joke's on him. >>



    Yeah. A listing of 30 warnicks worth $20 or 30 wheat cents worth $1.00 is "equivalent" to showing 30 - $20 Saints worth $30,000. image

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold

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