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Heriatge gets $45 million line of credit thru Wells Fargo...

bidaskbidask Posts: 14,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
Actually a senior secured line of credit.....as noted in Coin World.

I thought they had enough internal cash flow to run their business and buy collections.

Maybe something brewing?image
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of our members must be getting ready to consign.........

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  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Actually, I told them if they wanted to buy my collection outright, thy would need to pay in cash imageimage
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought that ad was kind of wierd.........$45M is a lot of dough, but for a company of their size ($1B I think) it sure doesn't seem like much.........

    Assuming they make a 5% margin, the $45M would represent their profits for one year.

    If an individual announced they got a credit line for one times their annual salary, I would not be that impressed........my credit card practically gives me that much and I didn't even ask for it.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought that ad was kind of wierd.........$45M is a lot of dough, but for a company of their size ($1B I think) it sure doesn't seem like much.........

    I seem to remember them running similar ads before, so there's no reason to think anything is "brewing" this time.

    Anyway, $45M can be very useful, even to a company that has been doing $1B.




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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe the Langbord Saints are up for sale.
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe Bob Simpson is getting ready to cash out of coins?

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  • Sounds funny to me that a billion dollar company would want or need a
    45 million dollar line of credit.

    But on second thought, maybe with the economy in the toilet people are
    starting to sell off things to be able to live and Heritage is filling their coffers
    to buy stuff. Maybe I should go talk to Wells Fargo and see about a line myself. image
  • Isn't this old news? They announced having this line a year ago after they first got it.

    I'm surprised that with the monies they make from interest financing, they do not have or need a bigger line.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I don't think it is odd at all - especially if they do any advances on consignments on items that will not be sold in another month and a half and which may take another half month before the winning bidder pays.


    Cash flow is KING in their business, and a reserve for writing more checks than cash on hand is always helpful


    imagine the stink that would occur if one settlement check bounced for NSFimage
  • This is not at all odd. Is is normal for any large business to have lines of credit, ususally with several banks. It is industry practice for the bank to take out an ad to commemorate the deal - it is referred to as a tombstone ad.

    merse

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm surprised that with the monies they make from interest financing, they do not have or need a bigger line.

    I wouldn't assume that this is their only line of credit.
    Andy Lustig

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,860 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is industry practice for the bank to take out an ad to commemorate the deal - it is referred to as a tombstone ad. >>



    "Tombstone ad" sounds a bit ominous.

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,329 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It is industry practice for the bank to take out an ad to commemorate the deal - it is referred to as a tombstone ad. >>



    "Tombstone ad" sounds a bit ominous. >>



    You mean like you might end up buried in their coins?image
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are plenty of companies with $1 BILL in value that have credit lines of a hundred million dollars. If low margin businesses want to grow they need a credit line.

    With the price of the metals and commodities in general probably looking to rise into May/June, not a bad time to have extra money around to buy into more deals.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,257 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually, I told them if they wanted to buy my collection outright, thy would need to pay in cash imageimage >>




    sure thing and why not imageimage
  • I think the point they are trying to convey is that they have the money and resources to instantly purchase valuable collections for cash, if necessary.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yikes!

    I forgot to pay my Heritage invoice!image
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well I hope they make their payments on time because if they DONT

    Wells Fargo


    will be on the phone FOUR TIMES AN HOUR calling them....
  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    This seems like business as usual.
    Lines of credit are normal for corporations or individuals with significant assets.
    Trime
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,329 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yikes!

    I forgot to pay my Heritage invoice!image >>



    Guess they won't need that LOC then, eh!!image
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,329 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This seems like business as usual.
    Lines of credit are normal for corporations or individuals with significant assets. >>



    An LOC is a lot like a condom or a handgun. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it,
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I'm surprised that with the monies they make from interest financing, they do not have or need a bigger line. >>



    image

    When someone can borrow at prime and loan out at 1% per month, I'm jealous. image

    The terms marginal utility and opportunity cost come to mind.

    Probably a sign of confidence in the way their platform is performing.
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