2011 Uncirculated Mint Sets - what designation will PCGS use?

baddogss · February 9, 2011 9:57AM

Has anyone heard? they're not Satin Finish, yet they're not really business strikes.
They're calling them 'brilliant finish'. Will there still be two designations again this year ... SP & MS?

U.S. Mint's description:
United States Mint uncirculated coins are struck on special presses using greater force than circulating coins,
producing a sharp, intricately detailed image, and feature a brilliant finish.

Click on "Program Description at the bottom of this link ...

US Mint

Thanks, Curious

MsMorrisine · February 9, 2011 10:27AM

Other than the strike quality, if there is no noticable difference in the finish, they will likely get MS.

baddogss · February 11, 2011 3:58AM

Just got off the phone with PCGS customer service, and according to the representative I spoke to they have not decided on a designation yet.
I'd like to see them be plain ol' MS coins. We shall see ...

MsMorrisine · February 11, 2011 4:00AM

and people thought the fun ended when they stopped satin finish...

19Lyds · February 11, 2011 4:10AM

Where's Cladking?

This Post states:

"These are struck on the old vertical presses at much lower speeds than those made for circu-
lation. They are also struck by new dies, as has been noted, under increased tonnage. Where
a regular quarter would be struck under about 60 tons and a proof (twice) at 65 tones, these
are struck at 75 tons."

So, to me, they are just reverting back to the old method of producing the coins but under a "new" moniker.
Kinda like their new "branding" where everything is basic black with that silly looking gold coin.

MsMorrisine · February 11, 2011 4:20AM

I do note the lack of "special dies" in that and it says just "new dies."

I'd like confirmation of that from the mint.

And I can imagine they will continue to use those dies from these sets to make circulation strikes like they did with the satin finish.

Will people be able to discern any differences between business strikes struck off these "old" "new dies" and regular ones? The way it is written, I'm going to guess not, but I'd like to hear the mint confirm their procedures with these dies and presses.

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Secondly, I openly ask:

Other than strike quality, will anyone be able to tell a mint set coin from a business strike?

If not, and it is just strike quality, is that worthy of a special designation (SP?), (SMS?) , (???)

edgar · February 15, 2011 11:44PM

I received my subscription order (3 sets). I opened 1 to check and the quality of the "brilliant Finish" is terrible,
I have received better quality picking up pocket change in a parking lot. All coins (without exception) could barely be
described as uncirculated. Bag marks, rim dings, scuffs etc. There certainly is a big difference between these and
the Satin Finish.

anybody else?

tjc2120 · February 15, 2011 11:49PM

<< <i>I received my subscription order (3 sets). I opened 1 to check and the quality of the "brilliant Finish" is terrible,
I have received better quality picking up pocket change in a parking lot. All coins (without exception) could barely be
described as uncirculated. Bag marks, rim dings, scuffs etc. There certainly is a big difference between these and
the Satin Finish.

anybody else? >>

here is another opinion

edgar · February 15, 2011 11:51PM

I am hoping that was just a bad set, I'll try the others

thanks

Schmitz7 · February 16, 2011 12:07AM

Much like the Satin Finish products being labeled as SF, the new Business Strike coins will all just have a big BS on the label.

Perhaps all new mint products should be labeled as BS.

edgar · February 16, 2011 12:19AM

after checking the other two sets, i have to say that some are very nice coins, but others, could barely be
designated uncirculated. my conclusion: when they're good they're nice, but when they're bad, they're awful

2011 Uncirculated Mint Sets - what designation will PCGS use?

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