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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>It would take an awful lot for that to happen, he or she would have to be extremely left wing/socialist and start a wholly uninvited conversation on the topic and be very "in my face" about it.

    I will say this though, I am Jewish and I flat-out refuse to do business with dealers who display Nazi memorabilia in their cases. >>



    I have an Olympic pin from the 1936 games. It has a reproduction of the Brandenburg gate on it. I bought it because of Jesse Owens and then way Jesse got Hitler PO’d because he won all of those track and field events. The look on Hitler’s ugly mug was priceless. There Hitler was pushing all of his Arian BS, and here was an African-American beating his racially pure athletes.

    Would an item like this run you away from my table? To me it’s just a part of history.

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    Of course not Bill.

    I'm talking SS badges, Einsatzgruppen stuff.. things like that.
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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    I have never had a dealer express his political views to me, so I don't know. Even though one of the dealers I buy from is on the "left coast", I figure don't ask don't tell applies. Now if a dealer started trying to convert me with some extreme left or right political viewpoints ( I don't like either extreme by the way)I might avoid them in the future, it wouldn't stop me from buying from a website, but maybe I wouldn't spend much time talking to them on the phone or in person.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,404 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I will say this though, I am Jewish and I flat-out refuse to do business with dealers who display Nazi memorabilia in their cases. >>

    If we discard all of the evidence, we're left with only words, and they're much more easily forgotten. There's a huge difference between selling an item and endorsing its message, and I dare say the vast majority of collectors and dealers in this material are interested in preserving history, not being bigots. Consider that even Anne Frank was able to say that she believes all people are basically good. I think it would take more than respectfully offering historical artifacts in an appropriate location to consider someone disgusting or evil.
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  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭
    I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION:

    Whether you were a dealer or customer at a coin show, would you do business if the other party was wearing a shirt that had Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny that said "I stopped having imaginary friends when I was five?"

  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I will tolerate most political views and as long as they don't start proselytizing at me I am fine. >>



    That in a nutshell is my opinion on this matter. Differing and contradicting opinions are a sign of a true democracy and it's the variety of ideals are how many new and better ideas are generated.

    Intolerance bothers me. Heaven forbid another opinion that contradicts yours makes you feel like less of a man and to compensate you need to resort to name-calling and accusations of being a closet communist.

    Proselytizing in all forms, whether it be political, religious, or whatever also annoys me. I won't subject you to endless rants about how I believe you should operate your life and neither should I hear that garbage from you.
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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not stop doing business with a person because of their policital views. BUT... I never allowed a very vocal dealer who espoused his views at one of my shows to return. I talked with him about toning down his voice, etc, as the customers were complaining and he gave me the BS: "I have a right to free speech..." At the end of the show I informed him he would never return as a tabled dealer to one of my shows due to the number of customers complaining about him. It was not his political views which I disliked, it was how he offended the customers.

    To MAT1 I would say: "Give us more details."
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether you were a dealer or customer at a coin show, would you do business if the other party was wearing a shirt that had Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny that said "I stopped having imaginary friends when I was five?"


    Absolutely. And I might even make the effort to explain what I think of the shirt.
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  • At the B&M that I work at , it was suggested that I not bring up political leanings
    after I mentioned to a customer to 'lose the hat ' after the last election .
    I have also been waiting patiently at coin shows , to quote a 'yankees fan'
    a slightly higher price for a coin , than a 'red sox fan' .
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  • Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would not stop doing business with a person because of their policital views. BUT... I never allowed a very vocal dealer who espoused his views at one of my shows to return. I talked with him about toning down his voice, etc, as the customers were complaining and he gave me the BS: "I have a right to free speech..." At the end of the show I informed him he would never return as a tabled dealer to one of my shows due to the number of customers complaining about him. It was not his political views which I disliked, it was how he offended the customers.

    To MAT1 I would say: "Give us more details." >>



    I don't think this kind of person understands that one's right to free speech is in relation to the government and not private persons or businesses.


  • << <i>I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION:

    Whether you were a dealer or customer at a coin show, would you do business if the other party was wearing a shirt that had Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny that said "I stopped having imaginary friends when I was five?" >>



    I would. Jesus would not want me to judge him.
  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION:

    Whether you were a dealer or customer at a coin show, would you do business if the other party was wearing a shirt that had Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny that said "I stopped having imaginary friends when I was five?" >>



    I would. Jesus would not want me to judge him. >>




    What a cogent reply! You have just made my day.

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Assuming that all dealers who live in CA, MA or Madison, WI are commies I could have saved a lot over the years on purchases. Actually I've never bought a coin from Madison, but not because of political differences.

    I do however refuse to buy coins from any dealer who has a copy of Mao's "little red book" on display (Not to be confused with Yeoman's bigger Red Book), however I've never seen a copy at a coin show (I think the CA, MA and Madison, WI dealers leave their copies at home).

    I sincerely hope that no one thinks to this point that I am being serious here. image
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  • << <i>I am asking because it happen to me recently. >>



    Only if their views add a premium to the prices.
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Why should it? If his political views infringed on ethical or moral grounds, then I could see you having a problem, but with politics...that's just crazy. It's like not dealing with someone because of their religion, or because they grew up in a different town. There is no reason for that kind of intolorance, people are different and accepting that goes along way to help fix the problems of the world, it shouldn't keep you from dealing coins.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mr.Eureka tries to get me to eat more veggies and I still buy coins from him.


    I'll still meet Lakesammon at a burger joint to sell him coins, as long as the lighting is poor and his Greysheet mysteriously disappears.
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  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
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    Sincerely,

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  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION:

    Whether you were a dealer or customer at a coin show, would you do business if the other party was wearing a shirt that had Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny that said "I stopped having imaginary friends when I was five?" >>



    I would. Jesus would not want me to judge him.
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    Sincerely,

    Stewart Huckaby
    mailto:stewarth@HA.com
    ------------------------------------------
    Heritage Auctions
    Heritage Auctions

    2801 W. Airport Freeway

    Dallas, Texas 75261

    Phone: 1-800-US-COINS, x1355
    Heritage Auctions
  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
    It can be, um, "interesting" when I'm on the phone with someone with strong political views on either side of the aisle. I learned to hold my tongue long ago when dealing with both dealers and collectors, but every once in a while I have to make a hopefully noncommital comment.

    And given my last name and its non-coincidental resemblance to the last name of a certain political figure, that subject is going to come up more than I'd like. image
    Sincerely,

    Stewart Huckaby
    mailto:stewarth@HA.com
    ------------------------------------------
    Heritage Auctions
    Heritage Auctions

    2801 W. Airport Freeway

    Dallas, Texas 75261

    Phone: 1-800-US-COINS, x1355
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