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Any red flags with this ebay buyer? $2500 item...
CDsNuts
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Just sold this set last night: Link
He paid this afternoon without any communication. Looks like his account was dormant for a little while, so I'm wondering if there's anything I need to look out for here (hijacked account, etc...). He just bought a 1986 Fleer Jordan AGS 9 (possibly fake) for $600 a few days ago as well as a $70 handbag holder (???), and then nothing since last May. Let me know if you see any potential pitfalls before I ship this guy $2500 worth of cards. Thanks.
Lee
He paid this afternoon without any communication. Looks like his account was dormant for a little while, so I'm wondering if there's anything I need to look out for here (hijacked account, etc...). He just bought a 1986 Fleer Jordan AGS 9 (possibly fake) for $600 a few days ago as well as a $70 handbag holder (???), and then nothing since last May. Let me know if you see any potential pitfalls before I ship this guy $2500 worth of cards. Thanks.
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If you have any doubts I'd be more safe than sorry.
Hi Lee - AGS - this company doesn't seem to exist anymore - and to be honest, I hadn't heard of it - when I tried to use the link to the company, I wound up with something else - a link to ebay for cards e.g.
I don't sell on ebay - but this guy does give me some concern.
If you have worries - I'd go with your gut on this one.
The problem with pitfalls is that they are often hard to see in advance.
Dormant accounts can mean something OR nothing.
Most $2500 thieves are prolly buying gold/silver; not card sets.
Tho, he could replace any good ones in your set with his own fakes,
and simply return the set to you.
I don't want another $2500 bad enough to lose $2500 worth of stuff
that I already have.
BUT, there is at least a 50/50 chance the transaction will be problem free.
Your money, your call.
Don't forget to use SigCon.
<< <i>Tell him you'll hand deliver it... >>
Since he paid by Paypal, that would be one way to guarantee yourself a losing claim on Paypal if the buyer filed one.
Tabe
This has happened to me more than once. I specifically sold a $50 itunes card. Same description that you described above. Dormant and non responsive buyers are usually fraud. I believe there is a way to contact paypal to see if a payment has cleared. I would wait for a response before shipping.
<< <i>I would pull the money out of PayPal before I shipped it..... >>
They'll still take the money from you, leaving you with a negative balance - and, thus, a Paypal account you can no longer use.
Tabe
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<< <i>I would pull the money out of PayPal before I shipped it..... >>
They'll still take the money from you, leaving you with a negative balance - and, thus, a Paypal account you can no longer use.
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True.
But, PP is MUCH more aggressive in fighting buyer-fraud
when there is NO cash to grab from the seller's account.
<< <i>take photos of everything; ship it registered with insurance and sig. confirmation. >>
I don't know if the photos will help you from a switcheroo buyer. I have a few cards that are worth $1000+ that I want to sell, but I'm holding off for now. I sold a $5000 Jordan BGS 9.5 a little while ago and was stressed about it until the buyer left positive feedback.
<< <i>withdraw the money from paypal and ship him a nice set of '88 Topps. Turn the scam around on the scammer, imo. >>
Great advice,,,,jeepers,,,lol
The guy won an auction and paid for it with PayPal.
....OMG, thats what I do, so I must be a scammer too.
The guy won an auction and paid for it with PayPal.
....OMG, thats what I do, so I must be a scammer too.
Last week I had a guy from Indonenisia with 0 feedback hit a $480 BIN and pay with paypal. I guess I should've sent that card no questions asked?
Honestly I don't sell enough volume to know all of the potential scams that are out there, so I'm asking people that might. To me it seems odd for a guy to not buy anything on ebay for a year and then out of the blue spend $3200 on cards in 2 days. It's not unheard of, but it's enough for me to at least be cautious when sending him $2500 in cards.
When a guy doesn't respond CD backs out of the deal.
When a guy pays promptly CD backs out of the deal.
When a guy doesn't respond CD backs out of the deal.
When a guy pays promptly CD backs out of the deal.
There seems to be a trend with you.
You're a moron.
The only ebay deal I've ever backed out on in 10 years of buying and selling cards on ebay is the 0 feedback bidder from Indonesia, which all literature I've read suggested I do. Even the ebay rep I spoke to about getting my fvf's back told me I was smart to not send the card. I guess that's what you consider a trend.
All I was asking in this thread were if there were any red flags I was missing, that's it. Read the OP.
It is totally reasonable to be concerned about high-dollar
transactions with strangers on EBAY.
EBAY/PayPal allow "buyers" to lie/cheat/steal and usually
offer ZERO help to defrauded sellers.
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<< <i>I understand why someone would not want to be scammed but there seems to be a trend with this seller.
When a guy doesn't respond CD backs out of the deal.
When a guy pays promptly CD backs out of the deal.
There seems to be a trend with you.
You're a moron.
The only ebay deal I've ever backed out on in 10 years of buying and selling cards on ebay is the 0 feedback bidder from Indonesia, which all literature I've read suggested I do. Even the ebay rep I spoke to about getting my fvf's back told me I was smart to not send the card. I guess that's what you consider a trend.
All I was asking in this thread were if there were any red flags I was missing, that's it. Read the OP. >>
Remember when you didn't receive an email from a buyer and then made the deal void?
Yeah after 2 weeks of avoiding my emails and phone calls on a $5000 deal I assumed he was backing out and told him to pound sand. The buyer even admitted so in this thread. Here's the quote: "- Lee is right...I backed out of the deal...not him. I feel horrible about this and it was completely my fault. I do apologize and should have contacted you to discuss canceling the deal rather than just walking away. I am sorry. "
So basically, both the buyer and I agree that the buyer was the one that backed out, yet you assert that I backed out. Must be interesting to look at the world through your eyes.
<< <i>Must be interesting to look at the world through your eyes. >>
According to studies, 4 out of 11 people suffer from what's clinically known as head-up-the-ass syndrome.
Personally, I think that estimate is extremely low.
<< <i>Remember when you didn't receive an email from a buyer and then made the deal void?
Yeah after 2 weeks of avoiding my emails and phone calls on a $5000 deal I assumed he was backing out and told him to pound sand. The buyer even admitted so in this thread. Here's the quote: "- Lee is right...I backed out of the deal...not him. I feel horrible about this and it was completely my fault. I do apologize and should have contacted you to discuss canceling the deal rather than just walking away. I am sorry. "
So basically, both the buyer and I agree that the buyer was the one that backed out, yet you assert that I backed out. Must be interesting to look at the world through your eyes. >>
It is.
I think being cautious doesn't necessarily mean canceling the deal.
The guy could've come into some money recently and is going on a spending spree.
If you send DC or sig conf w/ ins, I don't know how you can lose money on this deal.
<< <i>I'd send the cards.
I think being cautious doesn't necessarily mean canceling the deal.
The guy could've come into some money recently and is going on a spending spree.
If you send DC or sig conf w/ ins, I don't know how you can lose money on this deal. >>
It's easy. The buyer gets the cards, swaps 'em, and sends 'em back SNAD. Paypal supports the buyer, and Lee has junk in his mailbox. Insurance won't help him if he gets a package back from the seller that isn't what he sent.
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A few times I've actually looked up the buyer's home value on zillow.com, but that was with newbies that hadn't paid. In one case, the guy had bought about 50k worth of cards and his registered address was literally a shack. That told me I didn't need to wait any longer, and of course he was naru'd the next week. Anyway, I don't know how meaningful that is, but in extreme cases it might mean something.
If the buyer was buying cards before and still is, I kinda doubt it's a hijacked account. Seems like a big coincidence, and you can check his prior purchases by going to the seller accounts he's left fb for.
You never know when someone will steal something just because they want it, but, as Storm said, I don't see a pure scammer going after something like this. Even if they were going to steal cards, there are plenty of $2500 singles that would be easier to unload.
Another idea is to wait a few days to see if you get a "don't ship to..." email from paypal. That's happened to me before, though one way or another it still turned out ok. Calling the guy is the best move though.
Don't ship unless he can prove he just struck it rich while panning for gold in a nearby stream. LOL
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<< <i>Remember when you didn't receive an email from a buyer and then made the deal void?
Yeah after 2 weeks of avoiding my emails and phone calls on a $5000 deal I assumed he was backing out and told him to pound sand. The buyer even admitted so in this thread. Here's the quote: "- Lee is right...I backed out of the deal...not him. I feel horrible about this and it was completely my fault. I do apologize and should have contacted you to discuss canceling the deal rather than just walking away. I am sorry. "
So basically, both the buyer and I agree that the buyer was the one that backed out, yet you assert that I backed out. Must be interesting to look at the world through your eyes. >>
It is. >>
Mullins, just stop, you aren't much of an interwebs detective and its getting embarrassing.