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Two coins that keep me puzzled

It doesn't happen that often that I come across a coin that I just cannot ID. Been a while since it happened last time.

But now I have found two coins in two days. These come out of a collection that my local coin club bought. Let's see what the experts here can do image

First coin is from some north German state, I believe. It's a 1/16 reichsthaler 1677, quite a common denomination for several German states, I just can't find the right one!

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Second one should really be easy since it appears to be from Austria or Hungary. But it's not in my Krause - not in my edition of Krause, anyway. It looks like a medal but has the writing "Zwei gulden XLV ket forint" on the edge. Weight is 24.75 gram and diameter is 36 mm. Obviously some commemorative coin. Could it be from some south German state despite the denomination in forint?

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Any help is greatly appreciated!

Regards, Marcel
Ebay user name: 00MadMuffin00

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