GB Hammered Edward VI Shilling ND (1551-1553)

notenovice · January 12, 2011 11:35AM

Am getting more and more into the darkside and
Thought I'd post this to ask what do you think of this piece, I am not an expert in hammered coinage and am wondering if it is undergraded and was price over current market?
Heritage link to coin
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

ajaan · January 12, 2011 11:39AM

Accurately graded IMO. Not sure if price is right, seems OK to me but I haven't dabbled in English hammered coins in a while. Nice coin.

HTubbs · January 12, 2011 11:42AM

I'd say the grade is right, the coin has nice look, and judging from the past auction results the price was appropriate for that grade. You did good.

lordmarcovan · January 12, 2011 11:58AM

Mmm. Eddie the Sixth. There's a tough boy. I've never had one.

notenovice · January 12, 2011 12:00PM

Thanks guys, is there any mintage figures from this time frame?

notenovice · January 12, 2011 12:07PM

What about coronation medals, what do you think of this one....is there mintage figures for these?
Great Britain: Charles II silver Coronation Medal 1661
Heritage link to medal

lordmarcovan · January 12, 2011 12:17PM

Without my Spink book handy, I don't think there are mintage figures from that early. I can imagine such documents falling afoul of the Civil War a century later, perhaps. I don't think there are are reliable mintage figures up until the 18th century or so, but that is a wild guess and I could definitely be wrong.

Edit to add: even if mintage figures from that far back did survive, they probably wouldn't tell you a whole lot. I would think the important numbers are the coins that survived, and that's all about hoards.

JamesMurray · January 12, 2011 12:32PM

<< <i>Without my Spink book handy, I don't think there are mintage figures from that early. I can imagine such documents falling afoul of the Civil War a century later, perhaps. I don't think there are are reliable mintage figures up until the 18th century or so, but that is a wild guess and I could definitely be wrong.

Edit to add: even if mintage figures from that far back did survive, they probably wouldn't tell you a whole lot. I would think the important numbers are the coins that survived, and that's all about hoards. >>

You are quite correct Lord M , the earliest mintage figures i've come across are from Geo IV . Some of the early reigns what would happen with Gold and Silver coinage is when one monarch died the coinage was melted down and reissued with the new monarch.This certainly occured in Scotland.

Zohar · January 12, 2011 12:50PM

JCMhouston · January 12, 2011 1:14PM

I like that one, even if it was in an EF40 holder I think it would be ok. Hammered coins are very difficult to grade, for me at least, due to the often weak and off centered strikes. Since prices seem to have gotten up a bt I'm glad I bought mine many years ago but it seems fair for the quality of the coin.

harasha · January 12, 2011 7:23PM

The shilling is very well struck. I also would give it a better grade. I purchased a similar shilling from Northeast back in 1999. It was not as well struck, but similarly graded. At that time, the price was under $200. I think the ultimate price sold for the Heritage piece was on point.
Also, the price for the Coronation Medal is appropriate, I think.

FilthyBroke · January 12, 2011 9:28PM

That's a VERY nice one for the grade IMO. I'd take that one graded 40-45 and not think twice about it. (again, not that I'm an expert grader yet, but this one seems obvious)

Love the obverse toning, too.

RobP · January 12, 2011 10:30PM

<< <i>That's a VERY nice one for the grade IMO. I'd take that one graded 40-45 and not think twice about it. (again, not that I'm an expert grader yet, but this one seems obvious)

Love the obverse toning, too. >>

A nice VF, i.e. undergraded in US terms. Based on a consistent numbering system I'd give it 40-45 too. Some light wear to the highpoints and an unfortunate striking split (which is an occupation hazard with hammered), but round, fairly well struck up and about the right price. It's a decent coin.

notenovice · January 13, 2011 3:04AM

Hey thanks everyone for input. Thanks Zohar for putting picture in. I am fairly new to the hammered coinage era and to me this seemed like an excellent piece for the grade. I sometimes overpay for what I want but that is the collector in me. I love the toning on this piece and the coronation medal as well. I will try and post some more newps later tonight if time will allow.

coinkat · January 13, 2011 9:43AM

Nice- I agree that at least from the image the coin was conservatively graded and the price seems reasonable for the look of this one

bidask · January 13, 2011 11:10AM

great looking coin...I think you got it at a good price.

GB Hammered Edward VI Shilling ND (1551-1553)

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