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What is the Refinery Mark on these Silver Bars?

taxmadtaxmad Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭✭
I picked up these today and can't figure out what mine/refiner made them. Any ideas? The stamp looks like a southwestern star, but the outer is actually the letters AIN. Thanks!

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure, but those look great! I love that old, crude style.

    I suppose the marks could also be repeating AW
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it AINAINAINAIN or AWAWAWAW?
    I can't tell.
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭✭
    Try a better pic. The line forming the A's & N's are continous around the stamp, with the 'I' just a bit above on some of them. So does the 'I' mean 'I' or is it turning the 'N' into a 'W'? Anyway, a neat buy for 35cents over spot.

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it says "Wawa" to me. That happens to be a mining district in Ontario, Canada.

    Auric mining in Wawa, ON

    Just a thought.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Way, way out on a limb, here, but since I'm seeing Wawa, the circle in the middle could be a stylized "OT", which I think might have been the original postal code for Ontario.

    Or I could be completely full of elmo. image
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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭✭
    Better idea than anything I had. I love these old bars, but would like to find a resource that has 'mint marks'.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Way, way out on a limb, here, but since I'm seeing Wawa, the circle in the middle could be a stylized "OT", which I think might have been the original postal code for Ontario.

    Or I could be completely full of elmo. image >>



    I don't see the T. Looks like a regular plain ol' sun to me. Interesting but I would hesitate to pay any premium over melt value.

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    sebrownsebrown Posts: 424 ✭✭
    This eBay Seller states the bar is from A&W Smelter, Mojave, California. He also states:



    << <i>"A & W was one of the first smelters and refining operations to register their hallmark stamp with The Silver Institute (the first time in silver history that a data base was established for hallmark stamp registration). By doing so, buyers of the precious metals were guaranteed uniformity and purity standards. A & W's hallmark stamp can be found in the book titled "The Silver Refiners of The World and Their Identifying Marks" (a rare commodity in and of itself in my reference library). A rare find to highlight any collection. All A & W ingots are considered RARE." >>



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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well done, sebrown! You nailed it!
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,834 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This eBay Seller states the bar is from A&W Smelter, Mojave, California. He also states:



    << <i>"A & W was one of the first smelters and refining operations to register their hallmark stamp with The Silver Institute (the first time in silver history that a data base was established for hallmark stamp registration). By doing so, buyers of the precious metals were guaranteed uniformity and purity standards. A & W's hallmark stamp can be found in the book titled "The Silver Refiners of The World and Their Identifying Marks" (a rare commodity in and of itself in my reference library). A rare find to highlight any collection. All A & W ingots are considered RARE." >>

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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This eBay Seller states the bar is from A&W Smelter, Mojave, California. He also states:



    << <i>"A & W was one of the first smelters and refining operations to register their hallmark stamp with The Silver Institute (the first time in silver history that a data base was established for hallmark stamp registration). By doing so, buyers of the precious metals were guaranteed uniformity and purity standards. A & W's hallmark stamp can be found in the book titled "The Silver Refiners of The World and Their Identifying Marks" (a rare commodity in and of itself in my reference library). A rare find to highlight any collection. All A & W ingots are considered RARE." >>

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    Many, many thanks sebrown!!!!
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why do I have this craving for a frosty mug of root beer.......?

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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭✭
    Found another eBay auction using Bing! search (eBay only goes back 15 days). The full name of the company is: A & W Smelters & Refiners (Alexander Westerfall Smelters and Refiners) Silver Queen Mine, Mojave, CA



    eBay Sale
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    dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭✭
    Definitely "AW". The letters all point towards the center of the circle. If you look at the "N", the parralel lines of the "N" do not point towards the center.
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