Kennedy guys...... Do I have what I think I have?
Peaceman
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Looking through some bank rolls and came upon this.... Anyone know what the die marker is on this variety or am I dreaming....
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If you understand what is coming, then you can duck. If not, then you get sucker-punched. - Martin Armstrong
<< <i>Is 1982 the only known year to be missing the initials? >>
Simple answer, no. There are other years and mintmarks, but look for the die scratches (polish marks) were the initials have been abraded away. Make sure they are not missing just because of a “clogged” die.
The biggest no “FG” in probably the 1966 SMS Kennedy, but not only does this variety have to have no trace of the “FG”, but the obverse should be the DDO-002.
Other no “FG” by abraded dies include besides the 1966 SMS and 1982-P:
1972-D
1977-D
1982-D
1983-P
Be real careful on the 1983-P before paying a premium that the missing letters were not caused by “clogged” dies or struck thro grease.
Editted to add: Do you know who is credited to being the first to report the 1982-P abraded die (no FG)?
<< <i>Is 1982 the only known year to be missing the initials? >>
Only asked because my search of bank rolls is turning up fewer and fewer 40% and 90%. Might as well be on the lookout for this as well!
If you understand what is coming, then you can duck. If not, then you get sucker-punched. - Martin Armstrong
<< <i>Edited to add: Do you know who is credited to being the first to report the 1982-P abraded die (no FG)? >>
I have no idea Caleb, who?
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Edited to add: Do you know who is credited to being the first to report the 1982-P abraded die (no FG)? >>
I have no idea Caleb, who? >>
Our very own Mr. Ron Guth
<< <i>I'm still on this $ 500 box after about :45.... I have to look at about 50% of each roll to see if it has hairlines on it because the quality of the box is very high (No silver tho...
Nice find on the clipper.
40% and 90% Kennedy's are simply the cream which every collector quickly skims and then moves on.
The real gold is in the many doubled die obverse and doubled die reverse coins which exist. Specifically in the early years up to 1977. I believe that 1980 and 1984 have a couple of DDO's but by then the design and stikes were getting quite mushy making the doubling difficult to see. Look closely at TRUST in the motto for revealing signs.
It's quite simply to do but rather time consuming.
Good Luck and welcome to Kennedy Varieties!
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Is 1982 the only known year to be missing the initials? >>
Only asked because my search of bank rolls is turning up fewer and fewer 40% and 90%. Might as well be on the lookout for this as well! >>
While you are searching, you might want to keep an eye out for some of the clad DDO's, even in circulated condition they should be worth more then face value.
1971 DDO-001
1972 DDO-001
1973-D DDO-001, DDO-002, DDO-003
1974-D DDO-001
1977-D DDO-001, DDO-002
1984-P DDO-001
If you find a 1977-D DDO-001 that grades MS65 or higher at PCGS, I will pay good money for it.
Could not resist the die marker is what is not there.
How come the coin in CPG shows a tiny bit of the top of the G in the book? Every example I have seen certified showed the little piece of the G as does the coin I cherried 5 years ago in Dallas??
Edited: Here is my coin I posted a few years ago that everyone agreed was it.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
when i had a 1982 grade MS66 and showed it to the local dealer he was irate because it was so "over" graded. i tried to explain to him the reasons that it looked like it did but he had made up his mind. with great luster and pleasant tone i couldn't pass it up raw while everyone else thought it was weakly struck.
<< <i>The die abrasion is so severe on the obverse of some 66s that there is a gap between the top of the nose and the eyebrow, creating a pool in front of the eye. >>
This is what I look for.
I've heard conflicting reports on how much FG can be visible. The only
ones I've see have a trace.
So today I brought back my halves to Chase (Don't get them there).... and for the heck of it I asked the teller if they had any rolls... They did, $ 370 worth. I've got halves from them before and searching through "theirs" is a waste of time.... I figured, why not... I Just got done with them and found this..... -001 then? This 82-p does not have the die marker on the reverse (Like the -002) which would indicate that it is a completely different reverse... They also have a different Obv. which would make sense. I'm sure is already known. Guess I'm on a roll.....
ones I've see have a trace.
I agree with you, everyone I have seen, the CPG picture and the CONECA pictures all look like the 66 SMS coin I posted in the thread.