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Cameron Kiefer Obituary

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A brief obituary for Cameron Kiefer can be viewed at this link

Hope this puts to rest whatever outstanding doubt there may be.
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    Thanks for the link. image
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    mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting it Wei!
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    dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very Sad.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Larry

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    HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
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    sadder then sad .........
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this is sad, tragically sad. i tend to avoid these kind of threads but this one nailed me hard. does anyone know the specifics of what happened?
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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was going to post o the guest book, but I can't find the words. image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>does anyone know the specifics of what happened? >>



    He shot himself. Fortunately, he did so away from his family so they at least did not have to be subjected to the additional trauma of finding the body.

    Russ, NCNE

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>this is sad, tragically sad. i tend to avoid these kind of threads but this one nailed me hard. does anyone know the specifics of what happened? >>



    If someone knows, please PM keets, an open forum is not the place (not meant to criticize keets).
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He shot himself.

    that is really tragic. Cammy was an oddball like most of us here but he was hard not to like. he seemed to struggle a bit, like the "bedroom set" debacle, but he had such promise and potential that the forum yanked him into the fold. i met him face-to-face only once, i think at the Pittsburgh ANA, and we walked/talked for a while on the bourse. he was the forum Sample Slab guy when noone else really seemed to know the things existed and i think the PCGS Forum Members all felt a sense of pride when he took the job at ICG.

    what a bummer leading into the Holidays.image
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    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>

    some people like BNB have no class. He should be careful what he says. Instant karma is a mother f'er
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    jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



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    I cannot fing believe it!

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>

    some people like BNB have no class. He should be careful what he says. Instant karma is a mother f'er >>



    Agreed, BNB feels some anger, but signing the guestbook is absolutely the last place to express this.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    Very sad indeed.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
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    PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



    Probably only signed it so he could put his web site address image
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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



    Just remember that karma can be a b----.

    BNB needs to understand that an obituary guestbook is not a message board. The sooner he gets that through his head the better.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



    I just sent a message to them asking for removal of his inappropriate comments. I'd suggest that others do the same.

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>

    some people like BNB have no class. He should be careful what he says. Instant karma is a mother f'er >>



    Agreed, BNB feels some anger, but signing the guestbook is absolutely the last place to express this. >>


    I see he, (BNB), also couldn't resist to place a little spam advertising there either. imageimage
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



    Just remember that karma can be a b----. >>




    He also put this in the quest book. This guy has no class at all !

    -bnb "quality first"
    www.bnbcoins.com
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Maybe the funeral home will have the wherewithal to remove his post... or at least amend the hatred.
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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    BNB's entry on the guest list is unfreakingbelievable. Totally classless. Pretty much sums up what a jerk he is. I don't care if he's got my holy grail coin for sale, I'll NEVER do any business with the guy.

    Wow. Just wow.

    Nothing justifies writing something like that.

    Nothing.
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    Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Very sad. I left a message of condolence. I was shocked and appalled at the completely classless and cruel message left by BNB. What a putz.
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    That is NO PLACE to advertise a website. BNB publicly confirms his stupidity. Again. image

    Eric
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    may be worth buying some low end stuff from BNB and then neg. him to death image
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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OMG - this is very shocking.... I cant even write this...
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    piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I'm just going to say 1 thing about this and that'll be it for me. I am very sad for how his family is going to have to cope with this. Suicide is never the answer because it is eternal not only for those left behind, but for the one doing the act. I pray that his family can somehow get through this and grow stronger because of it.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    OMG, BNB just wrote more more + mentions PCGS.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    BNBs latest entry on CKs guestbook

    Not to beat a dead horse here or anything, but some of you must remember, the abuse Cameron went through on the forums lately was the same abuse I went through when i was there. So let's not forget that. I was targeted for my videos, for my character, and lots of stuff. I could have done what Cam did but chose NOT to. Its funny, how the same people who would brow beat me, act like they never did anything wrong. I was appalled to hear this happened To Cam, I still am, but I don't want the same people who pushed Cam to the edge (who also tried to do the same to me) act like nothing is wrong.

    Hopefully in 2011, PCGS moderates their boards better and does not let these out of hand comments continue towards others.
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    tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    BNB YAAFA! That is not the place
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    littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How terribly sad........... Our prayers are with the family. I have also emailed the funeral home asking for removal of the offensive posting.


    Larry L.


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    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>



    I am shocked, but not surprised by this act of hateful vandalism on the guest-book.

    It appears that this BNB fellow intends to incur additional pain and suffering on the deceased's innocent wife and children.

    Quality First? INDEED!

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    I just called the Funeral Home and was assured that BNB's messages will be removed immediately. I hope they are. image

    Eric
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just called the Funeral Home and was assured that BNB's messages will be removed immediately. I hope they are. image

    Eric >>



    Excellent.

    Russ, NCNE
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    piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Somebody ought to take a f'in trip to Santa Monica, CA and set this guy Jarett right. I'm sorry, I couldnt help myself. That's f'in COMPLETE BS what he's doing. Bordering on unforgiveable imo. You just dont do that on someones Obit guestbook. It's a not a f'in chat board like this arsehole!!!!!!!
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Why are people using the guestbook to contact the family?

    I was unsure of the news until later this afternoon and was one of the ones who Cameron has yet to pay back. I do hope I hear something about my Silver Eagle order soon. It's sad someone would do this to their family, friends, and customers.

    Mark Ligatore
    Dec 23, 2010
    Albany, NY
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    piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    looks like his comments have been removed
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,679 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just signed the quest book and that BNB character wrote some real nasty stuff. >>


    It must have been removed. I could not find it, which is a good thing. Crap like that should not be posted.



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    BobSavBobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
    Man I hope this is just one big sick joke....image

    That's all I can say.

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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    The funeral home has removed the entries from BNB and Mark Ligatore. It looks like they're going to have to monitor CKs guestbook 24/7. What a shame!
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭
    only 28 years old... looks like the crap b.s was removed from the guest book....... .
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    Hmmm... I wonder if they are collecting IP addresses from these clowns? I hope so. I think there are some new laws against this type of harassment.
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very sad story. My condolances and prayers go out to his family.

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why are people using the guestbook to contact the family?

    I was unsure of the news until later this afternoon and was one of the ones who Cameron has yet to pay back. I do hope I hear something about my Silver Eagle order soon. It's sad someone would do this to their family, friends, and customers.

    Mark Ligatore
    Dec 23, 2010
    Albany, NY >>



    may as well kiss it off the eagles... .little concern now to the family..
    The economic disaster of the last 2 years will be felt by still many more to come .
    .May God have mercy on his Soul
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought this was a joke. This is beyond tragic.

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    TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    It takes a sick individual to make those comments on an obituary guest book.
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    MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,571 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I just called the Funeral Home and was assured that BNB's messages will be removed immediately. I hope they are. image

    Eric >>



    Excellent.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Good work!

    This is a immensely sad example of poor impulse control, poor management of infantile narcissism, and absolute lack of personal accountability.

    Karma is too good a word to link with this type of behavior.

    Miles
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