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BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭
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This coin is a member of the stunning McCullagh Collection of MPL cents in the PCGS Set Registry. You can view all of the coins by clicking the link below.

McCullagh MPL Cent Collection



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Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ...ABSOLUTELY SUPERB!!!!!!!!image
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    joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    Wow!!!
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    Was this the coin that was once in a NGC PR68 holder or just a different spectacular coin image
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Superb, Brian! Stunning coin.
    Lance.
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    That is one beautiful Lincoln!!!
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Was this the coin that was once in a NGC PR68 holder? >>

    Seems to be.
    Lance.
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    MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Wow, simply WOW!
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    I am pretty sure it is worth more in it's ......SP PCGS PF 67+ (Gold )CAC holder.... wheew that was a mouthful
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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kickin' arse.
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    robecrobec Posts: 7,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Incredible. Should have crossed at the same grade in the first place. I'd leave it with the "Gold" now.
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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>GOLD! image


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    Some people have ALL the luck & money!!
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    Beautiful coin!
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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Incredible. Should have crossed at the same grade in the first place. I'd leave it with the "Gold" now. >>



    Yeah... finest known is finest known regardless.
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
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    kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Simply stunningimage

    MJ
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    EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations to Brian and Jonathan!

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    ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's always a joy to see this beautiful jewel-toned coin and it is completely deserving of all its accolades! Congrats to you and Jonathan!
    Charmy Harker
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    RunnersDadRunnersDad Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭
    What an incredible coin!
    Mike

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    Sometime this game can be so childish.

    Why couldn't PCGS just cross the coin? I've seen it in person, the thing walks and talks. There is not a single blemish. The colors are just out of this world.
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    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! It looks flawless!
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
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    renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Godzilla!!!
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    <<Sometime this game can be so childish.

    Why couldn't PCGS just cross the coin? I've seen it in person, the thing walks and talks. There is not a single blemish. The colors are just out of this world.>>


    Actually DaveE, I recently had the opportunity to ask David Hall the very question. He told me it doesn't matter whether it is in a PCGS 67+ or 68 holder, it is the finest MPL in existence...

    While I could possibly resubmit for regrade at some point in the future, you really don't want to expose any copper coin to the elements unless absoluteely necessary.
    Jonathan
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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    I'm curious - what is the provenance of this coin (if known) - do we know it's chain of ownership from issue to present?
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    So if it's a 67+ with a gold sticker, that means NGC had it right the whole time correct?
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm curious - what is the provenance of this coin (if known) - do we know it's chain of ownership from issue to present? >>

    From Coinfacts:

    "The PCGS PR67+RB 1909 V.D.B Proof Lincoln cent is a significant coin as it is believed to have been owned by John Story Jenks. Jenks was a coin collector from 1850 (when he was 11 years old) through 1919. He collected coins passionately for 69 years. He met Henry Chapman around 1875 and bought exclusively from him thereafter. Henry Chapman was a major coin dealer in Philadelphia who bought many significant collections.

    Jenks coin collection was sold in 1921, and at the time it was the largest coin auction in numismatic history. In that auction, two separate 1909 V.D.B. Matte Proof Lincoln cents sold. One of the coins originated from a minor proof set and the second from a silver proof set. After the auction, both 1909 V.D.B. Matte Proof Lincoln cents would then be untraced for 71 years, until the early 1990s, when Eric Steiner acquired the silver proof set through a private treaty Stack's sale and resold this example to Michael Ruben, a noted coin dealer from Maryland.

    Sometime in 1993 or 1994, Ruben sold the coin to Evan Gale of Aspen Park Rare coins for under $10,000. In 1999, Gale sold it to a collector represented by Laura Sperber who paid $38,500 for the coin. Sperber's collector would hold on to the coin for 11 years and finally sold it to The McCullagh Collection for a record-breaking price for a regular-issue small cent as mentioned previously...."

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    BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm curious - what is the provenance of this coin (if known) - do we know it's chain of ownership from issue to present? >>



    John Story Jenks collection, very picky collector who bought his proof coins directly from the mint.


    Graded by NGC around 1992, goes PF68RB*CAC green


    Legend/BWRC broker sale March 4, 2010 for $200,000+ to BWRC customer, McCullagh Collection.


    McCallagh Collection get's coin graded by PCGS as PR67+RB
    coin goes back to CAC and gets the GOLD!

    There is more to fill in between the gaps but this is the provenance that takes you from 1909 to date quickly.
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In a way if I was the owner of the coin I would rather have it in a 67+ holder with a gold bean then a PCGS 68 holder with a green bean. More mystery that way and way hipper/cooler IMO.

    It seems to me that NGC had it right to begin with. MJ
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    jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the provenance guys.

    I hope this is it's final resting place. Even with the stable patina, it would be tragic if anything ever happened to that coin.
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    jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>snip..It seems to me that NGC had it right to begin with. MJ >>



    How 'bout that image
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    BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭

    Your welcome,

    Between Mark's and my provenance post you pretty much get the whole story about the coin.
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
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    BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭

    I want to give my customer, the McCullagh Collection, one more plug,

    2 of the 8 coins in the collection (we still are looking for a stunning 1911) have been awarded the CAC "GOLD label" the other 6 have GREEN. Here is the other CAC GOLD label MPL cent that is in the collection.

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    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It dont get any better than that.

    Simply stunning.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    Tuesday December 14, 2010 3:28 PM (NEW!)
    << I'm curious - what is the provenance of this coin (if known) - do we know it's chain of ownership from issue to present? >>

    From Coinfacts:

    "The PCGS PR67+RB 1909 V.D.B Proof Lincoln cent is a significant coin as it is believed to have been owned by John Story Jenks. Jenks was a coin collector from 1850 (when he was 11 years old) through 1919. He collected coins passionately for 69 years. He met Henry Chapman around 1875 and bought exclusively from him thereafter. Henry Chapman was a major coin dealer in Philadelphia who bought many significant collections.

    Jenks coin collection was sold in 1921, and at the time it was the largest coin auction in numismatic history. In that auction, two separate 1909 V.D.B. Matte Proof Lincoln cents sold. One of the coins originated from a minor proof set and the second from a silver proof set. After the auction, both 1909 V.D.B. Matte Proof Lincoln cents would then be untraced for 71 years, until the early 1990s, when Eric Steiner acquired the silver proof set through a private treaty Stack's sale and resold this example to Michael Ruben, a noted coin dealer from Maryland.

    Sometime in 1993 or 1994, Ruben sold the coin to Evan Gale of Aspen Park Rare coins for under $10,000. In 1999, Gale sold it to a collector represented by Laura Sperber who paid $38,500 for the coin. Sperber's collector would hold on to the coin for 11 years and finally sold it to The McCullagh Collection for a record-breaking price for a regular-issue small cent as mentioned previously...."

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    Mark Feld


    Mark:
    One slight correction (which I have to notify Coiinfacts), Laura Sperber, Legend Numismatics, did not originally purchase the VDB for a customer, but rather for her own collection. Only later did she decide to sell this coin to one of her customers. I also purchased the PCGS 1915 PR66+RB (pop 1/0), mentioned by Brian Wagner, from her and it is included in my Registry Set.
    I would like to thank Kevin Flynn for his research on the provenance of the John Story Jenks VDB which is reflected in the Coinfacts story. He spent a lot of time researching this for me.
    Jonathan
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭
    What no 1911!!! The outrage!!!!

    Great coins btw.
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    dbemikedbemike Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭
    Stunning!!!

    –adjective
    1. causing, capable of causing, or liable to cause astonishment, bewilderment, or a loss of consciousness or strength: a stunning blow.
    2. of striking beauty or excellence: What a stunning coin you have!


    —Synonyms
    1. stupefying, numbing, dumbfounding, astounding.


    or just WOW!!

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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Lovely specimen.
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    BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Simply A Phenomenal Example!


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    SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I'm curious - what is the provenance of this coin (if known) - do we know it's chain of ownership from issue to present? >>



    John Story Jenks collection, very picky collector who bought his proof coins directly from the mint.


    Graded by NGC around 1992, goes PF68RB*CAC green


    Legend/BWRC broker sale March 4, 2010 for $200,000+ to BWRC customer, McCullagh Collection.


    McCallagh Collection get's coin graded by PCGS as PR67+RB
    coin goes back to CAC and gets the GOLD!

    There is more to fill in between the gaps but this is the provenance that takes you from 1909 to date quickly. >>





    Brian,
    I have been confused about the fact that NGC has graded TWO 1909VDB MPL's as PF68's. Someone said they are BOTH the SAME coin we are discussing here. You state above that NGC graded the coin in 1992. When did NGC grade it again? And if THIS COIN is NOT the second NGC graded PF68, which one is? Thanks for your input.
    Steveimage
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    BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>I'm curious - what is the provenance of this coin (if known) - do we know it's chain of ownership from issue to present? >>



    John Story Jenks collection, very picky collector who bought his proof coins directly from the mint.


    Graded by NGC around 1992, goes PF68RB*CAC green


    Legend/BWRC broker sale March 4, 2010 for $200,000+ to BWRC customer, McCullagh Collection.


    McCallagh Collection get's coin graded by PCGS as PR67+RB
    coin goes back to CAC and gets the GOLD!

    There is more to fill in between the gaps but this is the provenance that takes you from 1909 to date quickly. >>





    Brian,
    I have been confused about the fact that NGC has graded TWO 1909VDB MPL's as PF68's. Someone said they are BOTH the SAME coin we are discussing here. You state above that NGC graded the coin in 1992. When did NGC grade it again? And if THIS COIN is NOT the second NGC graded PF68, which one is? Thanks for your input.
    Steveimage >>



    Steve,

    good question,

    I believe it is the same coin, allthough I have no way to 100% prove it. Another example has never showed since this one was graded in 1992. Possibly someone cracked it out, sent it back to NGC, got the same grade and kept the old tag? Possibly NGC goofed, I have helped PCGS in the past with some incorrect population figures in their reports, so I know it happens.

    Brian
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh my. Simply oh . . . .my!

    That is something that dreams are made of . . . .

    Thanks for the pix. I think I'll retire tonight just to stare at it with a nice single malt Scotch in my hand . .

    Drunner
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    DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    Rich people SUCK! And Jonathan sucks even more. Both pop-1 '09 VDB and 1915 "Finest known"!! YOU SUCK!!









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    BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Rich people SUCK! And Jonathan sucks even more. Both pop-1 '09 VDB and 1915 "Finest known"!! YOU SUCK!!


    Your gonna think Jonathan sucks even more, look at his 1912 MPL PCGS PR66+RB, it's also a POP 1/0 CAC Green image



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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,500 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>GOLD! image

    This coin is a member of the stunning McCullagh Collection of MPL cents in the PCGS Set Registry. You can view all of the coins by clicking the link below.

    McCullagh MPL Cent Collection



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    That is IMPOSSIBLE!!! A penny for your thoughts!!!!
    Super image Todd!!!!
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    DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    Oof!! These are truly dream pieces!!! I wish I had the where-with-all!! image





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    << <i>Rich people SUCK! And Jonathan sucks even more. Both pop-1 '09 VDB and 1915 "Finest known"!! YOU SUCK!!


    Your gonna think Jonathan sucks even more, look at his 1912 MPL PCGS PR66+RB, it's also a POP 1/0 CAC Green image



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    DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    OK on a real note, not being facetious, this guy Jonathan has had three of his pop 1/0 Wheaties posted in one thread! How awesome? I say that because 99.9% of active collectors started with the humble Lincoln Cent. And it's fascinating that one collector has ammassed so many unique one-only coins in this series. Hence the "YOU SUCK". And Jonathan SUCKS three times over in this thread and still countin! image
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    image Simply amazing. image
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