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***what would you grade this Barber quarter? [grade revealed]
SeattleSlammer
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...just curious....I know we have a lot of Barber lovers here..... 
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roadrunner
Dog, you're way too tight on this one.
<< <i>MS62.....possibly even MS63 if very clean. Looks unc and with 63/64 surfaces. But the muted luster will knock it down 1-2 pts. Is that a scrape on the cheek as well?
roadrunner >>
Hmmmm... I'm not quite sure what you're seeing, but I see rub on (a) the hairline above the brow and temple, (b) the chin and jawline, (c) the bottom of the hairline where it meets the neck, (d) the ear lobe and laurel leaf nearest to it, (e) the right most strand of laurel ribbon, (f) the eagle's cheek, and (g) the bottom of the central tail feather. It would probably go 58 at PCGS or NGC, but based on the 58s I'm accustomed to seeing this one should be a 55+.
<< <i>MS62.....possibly even MS63 if very clean. Looks unc and with 63/64 surfaces. But the muted luster will knock it down 1-2 pts. Is that a scrape on the cheek as well?
roadrunner >>
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
ICG gave it a 62.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
No obvious rub and the signs of field luster is semi-apparent in the photos. AU coins don't typically toned like this. Look how the fields are completey open and more untoned with no changes in the texture or coloration. The high pts of the coin are probably the lightest toned, and hence give the appearance of rub.
roadrunner
I see exactly what Cratylus is seeing and that's what I saw.
In addition, what roadrunner saw <<No obvious rub and the signs of field luster is semi-apparent in the photos. AU coins don't typically toned like this. Look how the fields are completey open and more untoned with no changes in the texture or coloration. >> I saw that too but was ciphering it differently. I was taking the black tone in the protected areas to be the uncirculated surfaces and the white fields to be scuffy circulated surfaces.
We're so used to seeing everybody's tricked out pictures everyday that we forgot what an honest image from a flatbed scanner looks like. This is clearly a scan of a Mint State coin. In a scan, circulation rub would appear as dark grey.
Damnit I missed that one by a mile. hahahhahaha $hit happens.
<< <i>An ICG 62 is not quite as convincing as a PCGS/NGC 62. But I saw a lot of barbers like this in the late 1980's when they were not severly penalized for having thick toning and muted luster. This kind of toning is often seen on 19th and 20th century silver coins stuck away in sulfur-laden envelopes, albums, etc. They will just keep on turning dark brown until they become black. 1917 T.1 quarters are often seen like this as they were put away and forgotten about. They were not kept in rolls to protect them.
No obvious rub and the signs of field luster is semi-apparent in the photos. AU coins don't typically toned like this. Look how the fields are completey open and more untoned with no changes in the texture or coloration. The high pts of the coin are probably the lightest toned, and hence give the appearance of rub.
roadrunner >>
I would be surprised to see it in a circ holder, but 63 shot 58 is sensibly suggested. The cognoscenti sometimes refer to coins that look like this as "too original".
A currently popular saying sums up my thoughts "Often mystified, but never shocked".
Remember ICG's "gimmick" was that they would not certify with negative eye appeal for the grade. So I have to expect that this piece looks more lustrous "in hand".
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
I love almost all Barbers - and I love this one too.
Its a slider Unc as they used to say. Makes it an AU 58.
I am not impressed with ICG's opinion.
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roadrunner
<< <i>Its a slider Unc as they used to say. Makes it an AU 58. >>
I'm slightly surprised it was never dipped white and sold as a BU.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
Ok - same type of toning - what do you think PCGS graded this coin...no... its NOT a net graded coin.
Guess the grade...
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I certainly would love to own this coin as an AU 58+
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Here is why I hate to grade MS or Near MS coins based soley on images:
AU 50, huh ? I'll take all of your AU 50 Barbers if they looked like this.
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MFH, does that mean that YOUR example is 58+ ?