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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,319 ✭✭✭✭✭

    eBay Member User ID History
    The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
    User ID Effective Date End Date
    woodstocck69 Jan-24-10 Present
    foxhunttreasuresanthony Dec-04-09 Jan-24-10
    samkelluc Oct-01-09 Dec-04-09
    Many happy BST transactions
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    so is he keeping it or sending it back?
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    assume he's keeping it. He has not responded directly back to me, and seems to refuse to do so.

    here is the paypal reply

    Because the buyer has reported that the claim has been amicably resolved,
    this case has been closed.

    Thank you for your cooperation with our investigation.

    Sincerely,

    Protection Services Department
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>assume he's keeping it. He has not responded directly back to me, and seems to refuse to do so.

    here is the paypal reply

    Because the buyer has reported that the claim has been amicably resolved,
    this case has been closed.

    Thank you for your cooperation with our investigation.

    Sincerely,

    Protection Services Department >>


    Did Paypal give you the funds back?
    Larry

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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Funds are back in the account, and hopefully in my bank account in the next few days.

    Problem is if you keep selling on e-bay, there are always funds going into and out of your account. If he files a credit card dispute, we are back to square one...funds frozen. I called paypal, and they said if he did that, they can't stop it, and his credit card company makes the decision based on the facts. In essence he has 3 chances to win a dispute. One with E-Bay, he lost, one with Paypal, he lost, now he gets opportunity #3. Maybe he jsut decided to keep the coin. Looking at the pics of what he bought, mine looks pretty good. He also bought 2 raw ones, one for $4100. That's a pretty iffy call, but bought from a decent seller.
    JMSCoins Website Link


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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am happy not to be selling on ebay!

    Tom

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,623 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am happy not to be selling on ebay! >>



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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yikes indeed.

    Sorry you had to go through all that stress.

    Fingers are crossed that this dirtbag just takes his coin and slithers away.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Thanks for the heads up. Sorry for your troubles.
    This guy is blocked!
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Funds are back in the account, and hopefully in my bank account in the next few days.

    Problem is if you keep selling on e-bay, there are always funds going into and out of your account. If he files a credit card dispute, we are back to square one...funds frozen. I called paypal, and they said if he did that, they can't stop it, and his credit card company makes the decision based on the facts. In essence he has 3 chances to win a dispute. One with E-Bay, he lost, one with Paypal, he lost, now he gets opportunity #3. Maybe he jsut decided to keep the coin. Looking at the pics of what he bought, mine looks pretty good. He also bought 2 raw ones, one for $4100. That's a pretty iffy call, but bought from a decent seller. >>



    I've been through this too. Paypal represented me in the credit card dispute and since they had already found in my favor on the paypal dispute, they told me that I had nothing to worry about, there is no double jeopardy on paypal. In the end, paypal ate the credit card chargeback.

    --Jerry
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,555 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Funds are back in the account, and hopefully in my bank account in the next few days.

    Problem is if you keep selling on e-bay, there are always funds going into and out of your account. If he files a credit card dispute, we are back to square one...funds frozen. I called paypal, and they said if he did that, they can't stop it, and his credit card company makes the decision based on the facts. In essence he has 3 chances to win a dispute. One with E-Bay, he lost, one with Paypal, he lost, now he gets opportunity #3. Maybe he jsut decided to keep the coin. Looking at the pics of what he bought, mine looks pretty good. He also bought 2 raw ones, one for $4100. That's a pretty iffy call, but bought from a decent seller >>


    Close the paypal account and open a new one. Better yet, always have a couple of paypal accounts so you can shut one down in the event something like this happens.

    "A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."

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    coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's ridiculous that a buyer can file an INR claim and then, when that is denied, turn around and file a SNAD claim. It should be obvious to PayPal that it's a game, and these dirtbags should get only one bite at the apple.

    Blocked.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Has PayPal changed their rules? At one time at least, you could only file INR or SNAD, and never more than one claim on a single item. If you filed INR, and then a week later it showed up, but it turned out to be SNAD, you were hosed.
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    Wow, that guy is blocked!
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    Not only did I block him, .... I made sure everyone I know blocked him as well.
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    He is a savy player and understands the rules well.

    His INR was filed with E-Bay, then the SNAD was filed with paypal. Those were the ones that were dismissed. You can only file once with each part of the mix.
    JMSCoins Website Link


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    coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He is a savy player and understands the rules well.

    His INR was filed with E-Bay, then the SNAD was filed with paypal. Those were the ones that were dismissed. You can only file once with each part of the mix. >>



    Oh wow. So with eBay now offering their own complaint process, scammers now get two bites at the proverbial apple instead of just one.

    Greeeeeeeaaaaaaattttttt.......
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Updated

    Buyer has now lost INR and SNAD

    Now has opened up complaint with his credit card company

    All this after he said he wanted the item and amicably resolved the situation

    If he had just called or answered the phone or communicated
    JMSCoins Website Link


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    I'm not surprised.
    His wife probably made him do it.
    She obviously runs his life for him.
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    I'm unable to block this guy, apparently he has changed user ID's. Anyone know the new one?
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    CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    eBay Member User ID History
    The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
    User ID Effective Date End Date
    woodstocck69 Jan-24-10 Present
    foxhunttreasuresanthony Dec-04-09 Jan-24-10
    samkelluc Oct-01-09 Dec-04-09

    He's changed it back now to foxhunttreasuresanthony


    and Blocked...
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    Maybe he thought everyone on this forum wouldn't figure it out.
    Not!!
    LOFL
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    Thank you. I can't think of a legitimate reason to change names three times in just over a year!
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    coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>eBay Member User ID History
    The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
    User ID Effective Date End Date
    woodstocck69 Jan-24-10 Present
    foxhunttreasuresanthony Dec-04-09 Jan-24-10
    samkelluc Oct-01-09 Dec-04-09

    He's changed it back now to foxhunttreasuresanthony


    and Blocked... >>



    And if eBay actually gave a damn about allowing sellers to protect themselves, every time an eBay userID was changed, all blocked bidder lists with that userID would also be updated with the new ID.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ebay is like swimming in the neighborhood pool. You know peole are peeing in it but you tend to ignore it and hope for the best. MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Blocked!

    And foxhunttreasuresanthony, if yer reading this, (which you obviously are) we'll block your next ebay name change as well!

    What you did was just wrong on all counts and I'm hoping eBay trashes your account.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    blocked
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
    Is this his id? woodstocck69

    I just tried to block it and ebay states no such id?
    Positive BST transactions: agentjim007, cohodk, CharlieC, Chrischampeon, DRG, 3 x delistamps, djdilliodon, gmherps13, jmski52, Meltdown, Mesquite, 2 x nibanny, themaster, 2 x segoja, Timbuk3, ve3rules, jom, Blackhawk, hchcoin, Relaxn, pitboss, blu62vette, Jfoot13, Jinx86, jfoot13,Ronb

    Successful Trades: Swampboy,
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
    He just changed his name to: foxhunttreasuresanthony
    Positive BST transactions: agentjim007, cohodk, CharlieC, Chrischampeon, DRG, 3 x delistamps, djdilliodon, gmherps13, jmski52, Meltdown, Mesquite, 2 x nibanny, themaster, 2 x segoja, Timbuk3, ve3rules, jom, Blackhawk, hchcoin, Relaxn, pitboss, blu62vette, Jfoot13, Jinx86, jfoot13,Ronb

    Successful Trades: Swampboy,
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    so as a seller, how does a credit card dispute affect you?

    does PAYPAL cover, even if they have to give the money back?

    does the buyer possibly get the coin for free?


    or do you have a negative PAYPAL balance all of a sudden?
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    sinn1

    the buyer will not get the coin for free. If it was that simple, everyone would do it.

    Paypal has told me they will fight the charge back since I have won the paypal dispute.

    Not sure the time frame, but my paypal account will be empty, so if by a long shot the buyer wins, then I'll jsut end up with a negative balance.

    Paypal assures me no funds will be returned to the seller until the identical coin I shipped is returned.
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

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    I just can't imagine the cc company will side with their customer after he lost both ebay and PP complaints and went well past the date he could have returned the coin for a refund as stated in the original description on eBay. Not to mention the fact he sent an email stating the matter was resolved. I'd love to see his reasons given to the cc company on this one, but I know that will not happen.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    You know ames, you are absolutely correct!

    This is WAY TOO MUCH BS to have to put up with, with an eBayer.

    I hope all those folks with 09-S VDB's are paying attention!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    I agree. Unfortunately that is what happens because eBay lets these scumbags hide behind their keyboards and pull this BS.

    Edited to delete comment made in pure anger
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And if eBay actually gave a damn about allowing sellers to protect themselves, every time an eBay userID was changed, all blocked bidder lists with that userID would also be updated with the new ID >>



    Subsequent ID's are automatically blocked.

    Russ, NCNE

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