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Real or fake? (1890 Seated half)

rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Something is not right about the date. Is this a real coin with an altered/re-engraved date, or a modern fake?

link to ebay auction

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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Definitely not legit...altered date at the very least.
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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a PCGS F12:

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    his 1871 fake half has the same striations as his 1890 fake half. Scammer.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If one were to alter a date to make an 1890 half what date would it be? Certainly not a more expensive 1880. There really aren't any good candidates.

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If one were to alter a date to make an 1890 half what date would it be? Certainly not a more expensive 1880. There really aren't any good candidates.

    roadrunner >>

    I agree. The coin is either counterfeit or genuine, and not with an altered date.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>his 1871 fake half has the same striations as his 1890 fake half. Scammer. >>

    I'm guessing you meant Dollar and not "half".
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,828 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chinese counterfeit. They make a master die from a genuine coin, make a hub from that and remove the date from the hub, then clone multiple working dies that they crudely engrave different dates into. Occasionally they put in a date that does not exist.
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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree, the coin is no good. Has someone reported it to eBay?

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree, the coin is no good. Has someone reported it to eBay? >>

    I did, as I did about his 1888 Half, his 1871 Dollar and his 1932-D Quarter. But please, the more, the better.

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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    Chinese fake
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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭
    Several fakes reported to eBay
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Listing removed. It's possible the seller did not even know they were fake. Didn't look like a typical scammer.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Listing removed. It's possible the seller did not even know they were fake. Didn't look like a typical scammer. >>

    I hope you are right. But, while it doesn't prove anything, he didn't reply when I sent him a message through Ebay. I am more inclined to think better of those who reply, whether they sound concerned or outraged.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,029 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Listing removed. It's possible the seller did not even know they were fake. Didn't look like a typical scammer. >>

    I hope you are right. But, while it doesn't prove anything, he didn't reply when I sent him a message through Ebay. I am more inclined to think better of those who reply, whether they sound concerned or outraged.[/q

    I agree with you Mark. I also wrote him and suggested he get them authenticated and to also
    check his source. Got no reply.

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com

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