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Curioius...would you feel more comfortable if Dealers clearly marked a price on every slab?

ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
This always makes me feel uneasy.

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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know a dealer that did this a few years ago.


    Now he has a big sign in front that says " If there's a price on the slab...it's wrong"

    Makes for a big pain.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It doesn't matter because I am going to haggle anyway. The price on the slab is just a starting point.
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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And for those of you that do a lot of flipping you have to take the sticker off.
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    66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    at the Philly show, I saw a coin in a dealers case marked $50.

    The dealer looked at it, handed it to me and told me, "If you like it, it's yours for $130."

    I said I like the price on the slab better, since it's 80 dollars less.

    Dealer got upset with me and said the coin was marked at $150.

    I had to laugh to myself as he would be lucky to get $50 for the coin.

    I wished him luck and left his table.

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    marking every slab is unrealistic
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am a dealer and since 2006, I have a clearly visible written price on just about every coin (raw or slabbed) in my case. Neither I nor my table assistants have the time to quote prices on every coin that someone might be interested in. Marking a price helps the potential customer decide which coins are of interest and the price is "in the ballpark". I have to determine what the price is for every coin; why not put it on the coin so the potential customer can see it?

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

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    When I first started, I marked every coin at Coin Values pricing... I soon realized that was NOT a good idea, as they seem to get their pricing on another planet in a distant galaxy image

    Then I started marking them at THE price I wanted... that did not work out too well either LOL... as most collectors (and dealers) WANT to haggle... no matter what the marked or quoted price is...

    Now I mark MOST coins at 20-30% over Grey Sheet bid... except for those coins that have little or no relationship to Grey Sheet (think 1909-O Barber Quarter or many Barber Halves and so many others)... (contrary to some folks belief systems, while some coins may trade at razor-thin margins, most do not... anyone who thinks otherwise is not being realistic, to put it mildly and simply) ...

    I also tried NOT marking coins for a short time... that was a complete flop... my business came to an almost complete halt... I know that tactic, when I am on the other side of the table, gives me the "I am being sized up" feeling...

    The only items I do not price are bullion ... I just quote bullion based on spot + a small premium...

    All marked and quoted prices are starting points... some are also final points in the negotiation image ...

    After all is said and done... I have learned one thing about collectors (and dealers) ... there will always be those who will find SOMETHING to complain about, no matter what you do...

    Over time, I have developed good relationships with many collectors (and dealers) who have learned that I am fair and straight-forward... I DO NOT milk a coin... I simply find new homes for them at reasonable prices... prices that don't gouge the buyer yet give me enough profit to keep on keeping on... image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After all is said and done... I have learned one thing about collectors (and dealers) ... there will always be those who will find SOMETHING to complain about, no matter what you do...

    Amen, bro.

    As a collector, it is not so important to me that the dealer marks the price on a slab. If I am just curious about a price, I will usually not ask. If I am serious about buying the coin, I will ask.
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    PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    it would make me more comfy too ; but dealers by nature are predatory and will size up the buyer in an effort to maximize profit -

    a price on the slab would mean little
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    << <i>This always makes me feel uneasy. >>

    Do you want to feel better? Look at it as just an asking price, that's all it is...
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    I prefer prices on the holder even if they are marked up a bit just so I can see what I am working with. In the case of toners...prices are all over the place so seeing how much a dealer values the coins and understading a good deal of what the values should be...it allows me to save time at shows. If I see a coin I know is clearly worth $100 with toning and the dealer has it marked $250 I automatically know to not even waste his time or mine trying to haggle since we are very far apart on what I would pay vs what the dealer wants.
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    I mark everything just so I don't screw up. Quality stuff with eye appeal sells easily at 25% over greysheet.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
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    RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    I prefer show dealers that have theirs prices marked. I know it is a lot of work, but I appreciate it. As others have said, many dealers like to size people up, and for me that usually means I get a high quote. Sometimes it comes with a song and dance, "for you a special price," especially high. That is life, and one reason I often prefer the anonymity of the Internet over dealer games at the shows.
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As a collector, it is not so important to me that the dealer marks the price on a slab. If I am just curious about a price, I will usually not ask. If I am serious about buying the coin, I will ask. >>


    I'm with RYK...it doesn't matter to me if the price is marked on the slab.

    Besides, if the price is not marked, it forces the collector to be a bit more knowledgeable about coins he or she wants to collect - and that's a good thing.
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    ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am a dealer and since 2006, I have a clearly visible written price on just about every coin (raw or slabbed) in my case. Neither I nor my table assistants have the time to quote prices on every coin that someone might be interested in. Marking a price helps the potential customer decide which coins are of interest and the price is "in the ballpark". I have to determine what the price is for every coin; why not put it on the coin so the potential customer can see it? >>



    I agree, and this is how I do it too.
    Charmy Harker
    The Penny Lady®
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am a dealer and since 2006, I have a clearly visible written price on just about every coin (raw or slabbed) in my case. Neither I nor my table assistants have the time to quote prices on every coin that someone might be interested in. Marking a price helps the potential customer decide which coins are of interest and the price is "in the ballpark". I have to determine what the price is for every coin; why not put it on the coin so the potential customer can see it? >>



    I am not a dealer ,I do agree with this. I go to shows and when I see a dealers case full of coins I'm interested in I feel like I'm wasting the dealers time asking him or her to quote me prices on 20-30 coins. Especially if I leave not buying one, so most times I just pass the tables with no prices and stop only at the ones with prices.
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    I love it when they price um', have the time i find something that was priced 2-3 years ago and is wroth x2 x3 times more today image
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I am a dealer and since 2006, I have a clearly visible written price on just about every coin (raw or slabbed) in my case. Neither I nor my table assistants have the time to quote prices on every coin that someone might be interested in. Marking a price helps the potential customer decide which coins are of interest and the price is "in the ballpark". I have to determine what the price is for every coin; why not put it on the coin so the potential customer can see it? >>



    I agree, and this is how I do it too. >>



    Well there we go.
    One dealer whose table I've enjoyed visiting and one dealer I'll make a point to check out soon.

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    pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920
    +3 for what Rich Uhrich said...

    I don't want to waste anyone's time. So I appreciate knowing (quickly) if something is in my buying range.

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