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Does anyone recall when copies of the Annual Assay Commission medals were sold to the pubic in the 1930s?

Thanks!

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    JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I was always of the opinion that the only AM sold to the public was the last one. Before that, I believe that they only went to members of the commission and some big wigs. What does Denga have to say about this?
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    dengadenga Posts: 922 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone recall when copies of the Annual Assay Commission medals were sold to the pubic in the 1930s?

    Thanks! >>



    When I examined the 1930s and 1940s medal department records of pieces struck I do
    not recall any instances of older medals being made, only those of the current year.

    Denga
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was always of the opinion that the only AM sold to the public was the last one.

    That was my impression also. And wasn't that right about the same time that they closed down the San Fran office?
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    The folowing letter from Dir Ross to her secretary has me wondering --

    "Dear Edness:
    "I’ve wired Dr. Howard my idea about the medals. I don’t think anybody is going to raise an issue over those assay medals, but I regret that we did not recall in the beginning that the regulations provided for them going only to the members of the Commission."

    [Wyoming State Archives. Edna Kimball Wilkins papers H-81-1. Box 9, Ross correspondence 1936-1946. Letter dated March 6, 1939 to Kimball from Ross. p.1.]
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Geee....not even the chirping of crickets!
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    JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    It is possible that some medals of one or two years may have been sold to the public, but I don't believe that it could have been many.
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    JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I asked my friend and colleague, Joe Levine of Presidential, and he said that he had never heard of any being publicly sold by the mint prior to 1977.
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If there were additional pieces struck in the 1930s, the number would probably be small, as these don't seem to appear much out of proportion to their supposed mintage.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    If I run across anything more, I'll mention it. For now, it's just a curiosity.
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RWB-

    At what point did they start engraving the recipient's name on the edge?

    I have a slabbed one from the era and don't want to crack it out to find out image
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I asked my friend and colleague, Joe Levine of Presidential, and he said that he had never heard of any being publicly sold by the mint prior to 1977. >>



    Joe would know.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    At what point did they start engraving the recipient's name on the edge?

    Sorry, I don't know. Joe Levine would know.
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭
    Edge inscriptions are known from 1915-1975. I may be able to plate-match it, especially if it's not a "common" year.

    And, more to the original point of this thread, and paraphrasing what I wrote across the street, 1977 was the only year openly sold to the public. Based on medal rarities, and what I've read in J/K, earlier years, mainly in the 19th century, could have been available to those whop knew how to ask for one. For the 1930's, it wouldn't surprise me too much if some medals of 1931-33 made it to others than commissioners and mint/treasury personel.
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
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    breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The folowing letter from Dir Ross to her secretary has me wondering --

    "Dear Edness:
    "I’ve wired Dr. Howard my idea about the medals. I don’t think anybody is going to raise an issue over those assay medals, but I regret that we did not recall in the beginning that the regulations provided for them going only to the members of the Commission."

    [Wyoming State Archives. Edna Kimball Wilkins papers H-81-1. Box 9, Ross correspondence 1936-1946. Letter dated March 6, 1939 to Kimball from Ross. p.1.] >>



    Roger,
    Could the statement mean that Ross regretted that some had been given to "bigwigs" who were not members of the Commission?

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    My interpretation is that medals were sold or given to a few people who were not on the Annual Assay Commission. This would have been contrary to mint policy.

    A curious side bar: Edness Wilkins was an active coin and medal collector. She occasionally displayed parts of her collection at meetings of the Washington Numismatic Society. I wonder if she got some of the extras for her collection?

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