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Added a 1919H penny tonight...

JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
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but no pics until it arrives as the images shown were not very good. In 1912, 1918 and 1919 the large quantities of pennies needed for commerce forced the Royal Mint to subcontract production with both Kings Norton Metal Company (mintmark KN), and The Mint (Birmingham) Ltd, known as Heaton and with the H mintmark. The 1919 is the toughest of the Heaton marked dates.

This one in NGC 63 BN popped up tonight on the 'bay with a BIN of less than the EF Spink price so I had to jump on it. Pics to follow, but I was so chuffed I just had to post about it even though I know it's bad luck to post until you get it in hand.
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,999 ✭✭✭
    That coin is ex-wybrit and ex-1jester. I sold it back in '04 to 1jester. Found it raw at a show in MN. I thought it was aEF at the time, but those coins are notoriously softly struck.

    I no longer have any pictures of it though.

    I still have pictures of its brother coin though, housed in 2750113-003, but also sold that a few years later.

    Old grade thread from 2004
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    That's even better, I now have an ex-Wybrit in the collection.
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice aquisition there Jeff. Better specimens are a bit elusive as has been pointed out.There also was one in the recent LCA auction that I wanted to bid on but forgot the day...Mine is a bit muddy in appearance and usually I do not like the appearance of these (even aside from the poor strikes - usu. not quite as bad as the 18H's though).
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Wow, excellent coin...and pedigree! image Congrats on the purchase. I knew I should have held on to most of my upper grade British coins, but life forces us to make unpleasant choices from time to time. Enjoy!

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  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭✭
    You mean this one? (A toughie to get a decent scan of.)

    I listed it on consignment for a friend of mine who got it off TTrade in 2006. We both thought it was optimistically graded and priced it to sell. Wow, what a small world! Congrats!

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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whats the mintage?
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,999 ✭✭✭
    Whats the mintage?

    It's not particularly rare - 5,209,600 (Freeman say Rarity C2). It was easy to find them in change and in rolls in the good old days, but it is admittedly tough to find them in higher grades.

    What a small world indeed - I didn't realize it had traveled around so much.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    I think NGC has graded a total of 4 1919 H's in MS60 or better, with the highest being 64. Now keep in mind most British pieces have not been graded, but for comparison the 1912 H has around 35-40 graded above MS60, so the 19H is scarce in a relative sense. I do see these reasonably frequestly in F-VF, less so in EF-AU, and not often at all in Mint State. My previous 19H was a raw VF so this is a good upgrade for me.

    Gene, it looks to me like you need to get a better camera, or something. image
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,999 ✭✭✭
    Seller's remorse. I should have held on to that MS64.

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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Wybrit, if you had that for sale now you could probably convince some idiot collector of copper and bronze to part with big money. image
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, maybe I ought to send in my own ugly 19H and see what grade I can get...I don' t know, these are nice coins but somehow I want more out of a 63 or 4, even if brown.
    OK, not hating but grades do seem a bit high & want to know what days they are grading like that so I may submit my coins on that day. I think this date and mint is just inherently a bit unattractive even in higher grades.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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