Might this coin CAC 'Gold' Bean? or Secure Plus "+"?, or cross to NGC? etc. etc.???
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This is to point where it is just not a productive exercise
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or even a AU-55. Leave it as it is ,or better yet, get rid of it.Sorry but
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<< <i>Lot of good advice in this thread. Don't crack it. >>
No plans to crack. Thanks to all who chimed in. I thought the coin had tons of personality and I actually like it very much in the old vintage tomb slab that it's in.
Looking at your images that's very early slabbed market grading as this example has rub.
<< <i>64, Plus, sticker.
I like Longacre!!!
<< <i>AU58 would be my bet upon regrade. >>
Ditto.
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<< <i>64, Plus, sticker.
I like Longacre!!!
That's wonderful, but his grade opinion was way off on your coin.
I also have a Missouri . . . a 64, and the flatness on the cheek and hip/fanny of the reverse always made me suspect the issue of being rather flatly struck, but yours DOES look AU58. There is a luster flatness in those areas that just doesn't look like strike.
Superb original coin and wondeful surfaces, but I think I'd be very happy to preserve it exactly as it is . . .
Drunner
Not to make this comment compete with my last, I suspect it will and there is not much I can do about that. I have this feeling the coin looks much better in hand than in the image- this is not a slam as to photography, images and all of that- its just that the image of an MS coin in the minds of many collectors was just not captured with the imagines posted. This is my type of coin and I like it but keep in mind that the image makes the coin nearly impossible to offer a reasonable grade worthy of a coin with a look such as this
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That said, the coin appears (from the photos and to my eye) to be AU. However, given the color/look of the coin I think a grade in MS is warranted as the coin should certainly be valued more than even a nice AU example.
All IMO...Mike
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<< <i>I would leave it be, the slab is approx 20 years old, the toning seems stable and onw can easily assume it hasn't been messed with in at least 20 years, so to me it proves NT. Crack it out and all hell could break loose and remember with secure plus we are assuming the new technology to determine if the coin was ever messed with really works and detects all the time. How often does new technology have its shae of hiccups? I believe the older holders if accurately graded or undergraded are the very best of the best. Just get it caced so that it remains where it is imho. >>
Good advice I would follow.
But let's not misunderstand Secure Plus. It does nothing to check for doctoring unless the coin was previously submitted and digitally fingerprinted, and messed with since then.
Lance.
<< <i>ex-Barndog? >>
Formally in forum member user name Barndog's collection.
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<< <i>If CAC will sticker it, you got a good deal. I see this one as AU. >>
As much as I like CAC, I don't see why a CAC sticker would make any difference for that coin.
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<< <i>If CAC will sticker it, you got a good deal. I see this one as AU. >>
As much as I like CAC, I don't see why a CAC sticker would make any difference for that coin. >>
Edited to say: If anything, the CAC sticker would add a little color to the slab.
I sold the coin to raise money in preparation for two major purchases of half dimes.
I loved the coin and still do.
One "crackout guy" I showed it to figured he could get it into a 63 holder, but was steering clear of all commems at the time. At least that's what he told me.
Rattler holders are cool. I didn't submit it to any TPG or CAC. The coin would be the same cool coin regardless of the label(s).
<< <i> I thought the coin had tons of personality and I actually like it very much in the old vintage tomb slab that it's in.
I had put a bid in on that one for the same reason. Didn't realize it was Barndog's coin (which I've always admired) or I may have put in a stronger bid. Even so, your winning bid was still higher than I was willing to go. I'm glad that if I had to lose it, I lost to you though
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<< <i>and in the "for what it's worth department" I offer this:
I sold the coin to raise money in preparation for two major purchases of half dimes.
I loved the coin and still do.
One "crackout guy" I showed it to figured he could get it into a 63 holder, but was steering clear of all commems at the time. At least that's what he told me.
Rattler holders are cool. I didn't submit it to any TPG or CAC. The coin would be the same cool coin regardless of the label(s). >>
I couldn't be happier with the purchase of this coin, and knowing it was part of your collection, Barndog, makes it even better. How long were you the caretaker of this little jewel?
It is interesting to see some in favor of leaving an apparently circulated coin in a MS slab. How does this help the new collector who might buy it? Who among us would sell this as is and point out it is likely not MS? I would, otherwise I'd not feel right.
Eric
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<< <i>It looks to be in that weird AU62 space. MS60 is usually not a grade you see except for really beat up Morgan dollars or large gold.
hrh >>
Thanks for your input David, I appreciate it.