<< <i>UPDATE: I contacted the seller just minutes ago, and he has been contacted by numerous other people informing him it was a counterfeit holder. The seller had already initiated a cancel transaction request through eBay. He said he showed it to many dealers and even NGC, and nobody said anything about the coin or holder being bogus. I think the seller is a straight shooter, and mistakenly purchased the coin, and was not trying to defraud anyone in the sale. For the record, I would have no problem buying from him in the future.
-Paul >>
Good News!
PCGS needs to start scanning all coins like NGC does for their Certification Verification.
I use the NGC Cert Verification scan feature regularly as it's really comes in handy if the seller has poor or juiced images.
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<< <i>UPDATE: I contacted the seller just minutes ago, and he has been contacted by numerous other people informing him it was a counterfeit holder. The seller had already initiated a cancel transaction request through eBay. He said he showed it to many dealers and even NGC, and nobody said anything about the coin or holder being bogus. I think the seller is a straight shooter, and mistakenly purchased the coin, and was not trying to defraud anyone in the sale. For the record, I would have no problem buying from him in the future.
-Paul >>
Good News!
PCGS needs to start scanning all coins like NGC does for their Certification Verification.
I use the NGC Cert Verification scan feature regularly as it's really comes in handy if the seller has poor or juiced images. >>
Overall, how is the quality of the NGC images, as far as being able to positively identify the coins you have looked up? Thanks.
In comparing the labels, it is clear that #2 and #3 are the same, just by that the holders have to be fake! Right? The coins show very strong bands, which is so unusual on the 1945 dime that it in itself is reason for suspicion. The #1 coin is the way 1945 dimes typically look, with a slightly separated central band. I would think the coins inside #2 and #3 are outright fakes but they could easily be sandwich pieces too - 1945-S obverse and 1943-P reverse.
Another thought on #1 - would a counterfeiter scuff/polish the die, like the one presented.
I just waded through this thread - I looked at the eBay coin in Photoshop in a few different ways because it looks to me that the coin was inserted somewhat skillfully into/onto the image of the slab. The coin does not look "in" the slab but floated over with the edges feathered. The fabric of the image is different on the coin than the slab. The "texture" is indeed an artifact of the image, and it has a different grain around the edges of the coin and clearly, seriously, on the cheek where the Smudge tool or some such was definitely used. The coin looks to have been inserted into the slab image, but there is no doubt someone Photo-shopped the coin to improve its appearance on the cheek.
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The font on #1 looks too bold, I would think that one is a non FB coin in a fake holder.
#2 seems genuine (speckling on the label is JPEG compression artifacts)
#3 the holder looks real, but the coin has that glossy look seen on many fakes. >>
If you feel strongly about that, you should contact Heritage, because they sold the first one (#1, far left).
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<< <i>UPDATE: I contacted the seller just minutes ago, and he has been contacted by numerous other people informing him it was a counterfeit holder. The seller had already initiated a cancel transaction request through eBay. He said he showed it to many dealers and even NGC, and nobody said anything about the coin or holder being bogus. I think the seller is a straight shooter, and mistakenly purchased the coin, and was not trying to defraud anyone in the sale. For the record, I would have no problem buying from him in the future.
-Paul >>
Good News!
PCGS needs to start scanning all coins like NGC does for their Certification Verification.
I use the NGC Cert Verification scan feature regularly as it's really comes in handy if the seller has poor or juiced images.
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<< <i>UPDATE: I contacted the seller just minutes ago, and he has been contacted by numerous other people informing him it was a counterfeit holder. The seller had already initiated a cancel transaction request through eBay. He said he showed it to many dealers and even NGC, and nobody said anything about the coin or holder being bogus. I think the seller is a straight shooter, and mistakenly purchased the coin, and was not trying to defraud anyone in the sale. For the record, I would have no problem buying from him in the future.
-Paul >>
Good News!
PCGS needs to start scanning all coins like NGC does for their Certification Verification.
I use the NGC Cert Verification scan feature regularly as it's really comes in handy if the seller has poor or juiced images. >>
Overall, how is the quality of the NGC images, as far as being able to positively identify the coins you have looked up? Thanks.
Overall, how is the quality of the NGC images, as far as being able to positively identify the coins you have looked up? Thanks. >>
Pretty good as it's a very valid additional tool that serves it's purpose well IMHO when buying off the web.
Another thought on #1 - would a counterfeiter scuff/polish the die, like the one presented.
I just waded through this thread - I looked at the eBay coin in Photoshop in a few different ways because it looks to me that the coin was inserted somewhat skillfully into/onto the image of the slab. The coin does not look "in" the slab but floated over with the edges feathered. The fabric of the image is different on the coin than the slab. The "texture" is indeed an artifact of the image, and it has a different grain around the edges of the coin and clearly, seriously, on the cheek where the Smudge tool or some such was definitely used. The coin looks to have been inserted into the slab image, but there is no doubt someone Photo-shopped the coin to improve its appearance on the cheek.
Best,
Eric
did anyone else catch the Photoshopped cheek on the eBay coin? It is blatant.
Best,
Eric