Fake ANACS Slabbed 1893-S Morgan on eBay
commoncents05
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Looks like a fake coin and fake holder. Cert label might be legit but put into a fake holder.
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-Paul
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-Paul
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I'd stay away from it...
"Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."
~Wayne
THAT seller has over 2300 active listings of high quality very dangerous fakes including date/mm runs of complete
series such as this
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
I don't know what is more disturbing, the auction or the individuals bidding.
Frank and I agree on this one!!!
Seller is not an "expert" but has somehow managed to acquire the key date 1893-s Morgan????
roadrunner
can you spot the difference?
Cool.
peacockcoins
peacockcoins
/sarcasm
And is it just me, or is something not right with the 1818 and 1820 quarters?
ANA LM5200
At current bid I think I would be
<< <i>for some reason if you recieve a coin and its not what your expected im sorry about your luck. for coins i do not accept returns or give refunds. why you ask? because ive recieved returns before which was not the coins ive sent out. so as a basic rule i no longer accept returns or give refunds. all sales are final. >>
He must have noticed a trend in his 19 sales!
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
<< <i>The seller has recently bought items from coins.hk based in China.
THAT seller has over 2300 active listings of high quality very dangerous fakes including date/mm runs of complete
series ... >>
Thanks for the link. At last ! There are some higher-resolution pictures of some of these coins to look at.
These are a threat to novice collectors. But after looking at quite a few, I don't see anything that would
even come close to fooling a competent numismatist. It looks like these have been made by spark-erosion
transfer dies. A lot of them have small pits and/or pimples all over the highest parts of the coins. The most
accurate-looking fakes appear to be some of the Buffalo nickels, mostly because the fake dies are quite mushy
and, to some extent, they mimick the appearance of very late die state strikes (but the fakes are lacking even
more detail than late-state genuine coins).
Something about the sunken-relief design of the $2.50 and $5 Indian Head coins makes it easier to get a good
transfer (to make a fake die). Of all these Chinese fakes, perhaps the most accurate one of all is this one (below).
But even so, it is easy to spot as a fake. The original (genuine) coin would have complete well-defined centerlines
down the middle of every letter. The fake can easily be spotted by looking at the "ERI" of America and elsewhere.
The Lebanese counterfeits of US Gold coins from the 1960s are more convincing than these.
Here is another example of an easy-to-spot fake. Other than the laughable date numerals, the tell-tale signs are
the rough pimply texture on the high points (note the texture on the flowing hair strands behind neck), washed-out
lettering (see "IN" of IGWT), and total lack of feather definition on Eagle's body.
The two-headed 1922 Peace Dollar shown above is quite a bit closer to the real thing. Bet there are still some signs,
like the overall lack of sharp detail, the lack of the trough along the back edge of the neck, fuzzy washed-out area where
neck meets jaw, recessed portions of hair lacking detail.
Caveat Emptor...
<< <i>I mean c'mon...crack pipe hands and upper end items for auctions but the guy has a 19 inch tube TV.
Caveat Emptor... >>
Is that a stuffed animal laying on the couch in the background of that one pic? It would be a real shame if this POS has young children.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I mean c'mon...crack pipe hands and upper end items for auctions but the guy has a 19 inch tube TV.
Caveat Emptor... >>
Looks like he couldn't pay his cable bill this month.
Franklin-Lover's Forum
For a Shutterbug, He has lousy photos...
His return policy is a joke as well...
for some reason if you recieve a coin and its not what your expected im sorry about your luck. for coins i do not accept returns or give refunds. why you ask? because ive recieved returns before which was not the coins ive sent out. so as a basic rule i no longer accept returns or give refunds. all sales are final. the only exception to my rule is if you return the package i sent you unopened. thanks and happy bidding
Currently Listed: Nothing
Take Care, Dave
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
<< <i>Auction pulled.
I'm very glad to see that. Unfortunately, however, he currently has other listings of coins which appear to be counterfeit:
The three Legged Nickel looks bad, as do some other coins
Can you link the seller as the original listing link in the first post no longer does (I believe).
Thanks
<< <i>Mark,
Can you link the seller as the original listing link in the first post no longer does (I believe).
Thanks >>
Rick, see my previous post above yours - it contains a link to his current listings.
Thanks!
The 3legger is bogus.
really. can i have a link to that forum please. i would like to join and give my input into the matter. yes ive bought some copy coins but i havent even recieved them yet. i bought them to replace the ones im selling. the ones on ebay are geniune coins by my standards. ive taken them to normous dealers in my area and everything checks out ok. i have done so because there has been so many emails about these coins protentialy being fakes. thanks for your concern but there is no problem here.
I sent him a link so maybe he will join us.
Yogi Berra
<< <i>I received this from the seller after I questioned the authenticity of his coins.
really. can i have a link to that forum please. i would like to join and give my input into the matter. yes ive bought some copy coins but i havent even recieved them yet. i bought them to replace the ones im selling. the ones on ebay are geniune coins by my standards. ive taken them to normous dealers in my area and everything checks out ok. i have done so because there has been so many emails about these coins protentialy being fakes. thanks for your concern but there is no problem here.
I sent him a link so maybe he will join us. >>
In case the seller reads this thread.. Your Three legged Nickel is definitely counterfeit - the diagnostics do not match that of genuine ones. If you look at images of real ones, you should be able to see that. I believe that your Vermont copper is also counterfeit, as well as your Bust Quarters and Bust Half Dollar.
By selling counterfeit coins without describing them as such, you are breaking the law and your reputation on Ebay will be badly harmed, permanently.
The fact that you have received so many emails about the coins being fake should tell you something. If you really think they are genuine, you should try to get them authenticated by a grading company - that would help you get higher prices for them, anyway.
..Tom
LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics
<< <i>I mean c'mon...crack pipe hands and upper end items for auctions but the guy has a 19 inch tube TV.
Caveat Emptor... >>
I knew I've seen those hands somewhere.
He's the caveman on those insurance commercials.
Kudos to those that made this what it is...
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
the colonial coin could possibly be a counterfeit so please research before bidding.ive been told otherwise but some people online disagree with me. so via ebay rules i will post this in my auctions for everyone to see. thank you for looking. p.s. for the coin watch community thanks for all the harrasing emails. you could have atleast listened to what i had to say.
Harassing emails I resemble that remark.
Yogi Berra
Lance.
It also damages the integrity and future of the hobby. A buyer gets soaked with a fake key date, tells his friend, he tells someone else, and so on. One burned buyer may turn into a dozen individuals turned off with coin collecting. No good for me or you. The 93S is relisted, but the seller claims it could be fake, do your research. Good work forumites.
"...ive taken them to normous dealers..."
Next time, maybe he should take 'em to, uh, I don't know, "coin dealers" instead? And they don't even need to be "normous"
Geez.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>Still trying to figure this one out:
"...ive taken them to normous dealers..."
>>
Probably "numerous dealers"
<< <i>
<< <i>Still trying to figure this one out:
"...ive taken them to normous dealers..."
>>
Probably "numerous dealers" >>
Or really really big dealers.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
so sure as pics are not the greatest.
bob
<< <i>Does that 93-s have a 21 reverse? Breast feathers look like a 21 to me but I'm not
so sure as pics are not the greatest.
bob >>
The most recent 93-S dollar and three legged nickel auctions have been pulled. But I still think he has counterfeit bust quarter, bust half and colonial listings going.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>Am I missing something? I see no 93-S or 3 leg in this guy's listings... >>
No you're not - see my previous post.
<< <i>Am I missing something? I see no 93-S or 3 leg in this guy's listings... >>
No, sorry but Ebay seems to be on top of this guy and deleted it as soon as it was relisted. I saw it and 5 minutes later
it was zapped. Hopefully he will be soon too!
bob
And he has bought a fake ANACS type holder,( see here, 4th item down), and several coin copies:
Seller's feedback as buyer, and see fake coins bought
and here is the listing for the fake slab he bought:
LISTING for fake ANACS slab
......I collect old stuff......
<< <i>Still trying to figure this one out:
"...ive taken them to normous dealers..."
Next time, maybe he should take 'em to, uh, I don't know, "coin dealers" instead? And they don't even need to be "normous"
Geez. >>
I think he meant "numerous dealers". His typos are a trivial matter considering what he is doing.
Edited to add that I see Frank already mentioned this.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire